HFQ Official Snippet #3 (sort of)

phillies wrote:While I may be misinterpreting, it was my impression from book one or so that the Testimonies did include the writings of every Adam and every Eve, though clearly they are not all in every local library.

evilauthor wrote:

DrakBibliophile wrote:Well some of the Testimonies could have been written by Eves.

Seriously, Kohdy may have been an Adam but "purged from the Testimonies" could also mean "purging any mention of Kohdy from the Testimonies" and likely does.

It would be a bit strange if somebody as active in the War Against the Fallen as Kohdy hadn't been mention in Testimonies written by other Adams/Eves.

Based on what we learned in the other snippets, it's possible that Kohdy never had the chance to write his own Testimony but he likely was mentioned in other parts of the Testimonies.

The easy solution is that the Testimonies aren't writings from EVERY Adam and Eve. Can you just imagine someone trying to buy EIGHT MILLION BOOKS, each one a single Adam's or Eve's journal?

I think it;s more likely that the Church approved Testimonies are a collection of selected excerpts from said journals, which just makes it that much easier to remove mentions of Kohdy.

Also, if most of the articles in the Testimonies pre-date the WotF (which seems likely when writing about things like the Creation and Angelic visits to this or that village), Kohdy wouldn't be mentioned at all because he hadn't become famous yet.

The master library does include the works of every Adam and Eve who left a written record (other than a purely personal diary which may well have gotten lost or ended up in someone's attic), but not every Adam or Eve felt compelled to write. Most of them were too busy living, actually. Nonetheless, even a very small percentage of 8,000,000 literate adults is a staggering total of journals, accounts, letters, etc. The Testimonies refers to that entire body of work, rather like the Congressional Record is the official compendium of all of the records of every Congress of the United States. Not everyone spends his time with all 112 volumes of the Congressional Record, in hardcopy, on his shelf. That doesn't mean he can't go down to the Library of Congress and find them, though. This may not be the very best example, given the scared nature of The Testimonies and the centuries in which devout, dedicated Church scholars have spent compiling and cataloging them. The Congressional Record, for example, includes a lot of speeches which were never given from the floor of Congress but were inserted by an individual Representative or Senator, not to mention thousands upon thousands of (often deadly dull) reports, and The Testimonies don't. The scholars responsible for The Testimonies, on the other hand, are as dedicated as any rabbi, priest, pastor, or mullah who ever lived and take their responsibilities very, very seriously.

They simply have no way to know that, honest as all of the original writers were, the events they describe were, themselves, the result of the most enormous lie in human history.

Given the shear mass of The Testimonies, the fact it is all 'dead trees' expunging every reference to Kohdy would be impossible. However removing him from the official history of the church at the order of an angel no problem. Thus mentions in the Testimonies are likely, but who could even read the collected writings of eight million people in a lifetime, it would be the work of generations. Perhaps the Sisters of Saint Kohdy using generations of sister librarian assistants have.

Remember also there are no universities with graduate students working on thesis to bring these mentions to light. The first collage was such an affront to the church they attacked Charis.

Thank you RFC for more information on the Testimonies, more an archival library than a book. Although there might be a church sanctioned Selected Testimonies that would have all mentions of Kohdy expunged.

Poker

runsforcelery wrote:The master library does include the works of every Adam and Eve who left a written record (other than a purely personal diary which may well have gotten lost or ended up in someone's attic), but not every Adam or Eve felt compelled to write. Most of them were too busy living, actually. Nonetheless, even a very small percentage of 8,000,000 literate adults is a staggering total of journals, accounts, letters, etc. The Testimonies refers to that entire body of work, rather like the Congressional Record is the official compendium of all of the records of every Congress of the United States. Not everyone spends his time with all 112 volumes of the Congressional Record, in hardcopy, on his shelf. That doesn't mean he can't go down to the Library of Congress and find them, though. This may not be the very best example, given the scared nature of The Testimonies and the centuries in which devout, dedicated Church scholars have spent compiling and cataloging them. The Congressional Record, for example, includes a lot of speeches which were never given from the floor of Congress but were inserted by an individual Representative or Senator, not to mention thousands upon thousands of (often deadly dull) reports, and The Testimonies don't. The scholars responsible for The Testimonies, on the other hand, are as dedicated as any rabbi, priest, pastor, or mullah who ever lived and take their responsibilities very, very seriously.

They simply have no way to know that, honest as all of the original writers were, the events they describe were, themselves, the result of the most enormous lie in human history.

Even so, if most of the Testimonies were written before the War of the Fallen, there's little reason for Kohdy to be mentioned in them. And if he is mentioned, there can well be some wiggle room to debate if he's THAT Kohdy.

And even a good many that wrote during or after the WotF may well have never met Kohdy, and may just mention him as a rumor or story they heard about. And again, even if a Testimony actually describes meeting a "Seijin Kohdy", can anyone in later generations be sure he's THAT Kohdy?