Audrey O’Hanrahan

Heres a thought? What if the ships that just came over the Mesan alpha wall were not RMN's 10th Fleet, but an IAN battle fleet?

All we know is that 10th fleet headed out from Myers to invade Mesa, and that a force of ships numbering at least 12 arrived in Mesa.

saber964 wrote:Heres a thought? What if the ships that just came over the Mesan alpha wall were not RMN's 10th Fleet, but an IAN battle fleet?

All we know is that 10th fleet headed out from Myers to invade Mesa, and that a force of ships numbering at least 12 arrived in Mesa.

It's kind of interesting how vague David was.

Hi KZT,

It wasn't that vague, the hyper footprint report mentioned at least a dozen ships of the wall.

When the IAN arrives, I don't think it have only a dozen or so SD sized ships, so I'm pretty sure this is Mike, but if she brought both SDP BS's and CLAC's plus ammunition and repair ships etc, she'd obviously have more than a dozen SD sized footprints, so I suspect at least one SDP squadron plus a couple of CLAC's etc went to the termini to hold and cut off any escape by people, ships, or persons of interest.

Mike is kind of sneaky after all.

Then I've posted before CoG that Chien-lu will soon turn up as well, and with the far side of Visigoth secured HH-A and at least part of the GA is only 8 days away, assuming nothing has or will happen in Beowulf.

I've often wondered here about when the IAN will show up since they've had more than enough time to go through hyper to Mesa since May or June etc, let alone use some wormhole, not necessarily Lynx or Visigoth, from the latest map, which isn't that new... Hint, hint.

New maps pretty please?

The implication from the textev is that the MSN doesn't have a dozen SD's, so they know they're clearly outclassed, which is why they're standing down and withdrawing from New Rostock.

So when Chien-lu and HH-A show up over the next couple of weeks, probably with marine units outnumbering the whole Mesan security force, the Mesans are going to be both grateful and fearful for lots of reasons.

A peaceful or at least quiet Mesa, with millions upon millions of volunteers for the GA ground forces is not what the MAlign plan intended. Again.

How Audrey handles that little faux pas, at least in her mind, might be quite telling in terms of her true loyalties, if there's any doubt.

L

kzt wrote:

saber964 wrote:Heres a thought? What if the ships that just came over the Mesan alpha wall were not RMN's 10th Fleet, but an IAN battle fleet?

All we know is that 10th fleet headed out from Myers to invade Mesa, and that a force of ships numbering at least 12 arrived in Mesa.

It's kind of interesting how vague David was.

saber964 wrote:Heres a thought? What if the ships that just came over the Mesan alpha wall were not RMN's 10th Fleet, but an IAN battle fleet?

All we know is that 10th fleet headed out from Myers to invade Mesa, and that a force of ships numbering at least 12 arrived in Mesa.

Thoughts --

(1) The 12 SD / DN / CLAC footprints detected at end of COG were likely Mike and 10th Fleet -- numbers are about right with a couple of detachments left at Meyers and MacIntosh.

(2) Chien Lu and the IAN will likely arrive shortly -- note IAN also has FTL (at least at Buttercup development or better) so Mike will get a "I'm here" call to respond to (if she doesn't challenge the incoming footprint FTL)

(3) Do you REALLY think Chien-Lu Andermann / Hertzog Rabenstrange will arrive with ONLY 12 SD's ???
Seriously. Think 50+ SD's plus screen and support.

-- Stewart

I thought the reason the Andermani weren't included in the GA is so the SL wouldn't go after them and it would free the IAN to go after Mesa/Manpower. Why is Mike headed there then?

Zakharra wrote:I thought the reason the Andermani weren't included in the GA is so the SL wouldn't go after them and it would free the IAN to go after Mesa/Manpower. Why is Mike headed there then?

Because she's got hard evidence that an official Mesan diplomat was involved in setting up the Monica operation. That constitutes an Act of War. She's also got a lot of evidence of MAlign involvement, and she's intending to turn over as many rocks as needed to find them, regardless of the rocks' wishes in the matter.

Mesa isn't a member of the SL. An Aldermani fleet showing up- through hyperspace for any portion of the Sl it might need to cross- and "Resolving" it's differences with Mesa over attacks on the line of succession would seriously concern the SL and the SLN but it is NOT attacking the SL.

A major problem for the SL with the Andermani arriving in force at Mesa is what it represents.

1st is the really big statement that this "neobarb" star nation doesn't give a rat's ass about the SLN. They are going after a star nation that has attacke the IAE and since Mesa is NOT a member and is nominally held in comtempt and abhorrence for all the stuff they have been doing, the SL and SLN can keep their nose out of the conflict.
How is the a serious probem for SL? Yet another neobarb nation is flipping it off.

2nd is that anyting that the SLN can move there before the IAN takes the orbitals and forces surrender of the system is going to be unable to actually do anything. Short of sending 100 SLN wallers- which would probably be mincemeat if they were rash enough to open fire on the IAN- it's NOT the SL/SLN's fight.

3rd is the obvious message that SL/SLN is NOT going to be able to keep systems from doing nasty things to one another. They just can't.

If the IA shows up at Mesa, sends a declaration of war as soon as it hits normal space and just goes in…..well, that is "within the rules". They even have an actual reason to do it beyond the cesspool that Mesa is. So the Alighment will turn out not to be there…..once they have the system, the IAE can go through the process to confirm or eliminate the actual involvement. It will be a bit late for the Masa government.

Hi Brigade XO,

Again, kudos for the excellent post!

The effect of the IAN being on the other side of the Visigoth termini makes the mandarin claims about Beowulf being an 'invasion highway' rather moot, especially when other wormhole bridges can get the GA fleets almost as close to Sol, 40 and ~100 LY from Beowulf IIRC, or a week or two from Sol.

Indeed I think they will used to go after the roughly 6 other BF SD 'anchorages' nearby in the core, rather soon after any attack on Beowulf.

Once they're gone, the writing's on the wall as far as Terra's 'anchorage', so the raid won't be seen as such a threat, not too mention how quick it'll be, ie not long enough to get to Earth's orbit and out again.

Now that's settled, returning to Audrey [not 'Audrey II'] I suspect her job has always been to take down the SL via revelations of all its corruption using the MAlign complete records; including Manpower's huge influence with the unelected bureaucrats, such as Rajani's illicit billions for bad decisions etc, which she was to claim she'd found while on Mesa in all the chaos; but the chaos didn't happen, so I'm intrigued how she'll explain that when no other MAlign agents are apparently there to help her find a way to use all the records the MAlign has already given her.

I suspect she'll find a way, but the complications might end up tripping her or the MAlign up.

L

Brigade XO wrote:Mesa isn't a member of the SL. An Aldermani fleet showing up- through hyperspace for any portion of the Sl it might need to cross- and "Resolving" it's differences with Mesa over attacks on the line of succession would seriously concern the SL and the SLN but it is NOT attacking the SL.

A major problem for the SL with the Andermani arriving in force at Mesa is what it represents.

1st is the really big statement that this "neobarb" star nation doesn't give a rat's ass about the SLN. They are going after a star nation that has attacke the IAE and since Mesa is NOT a member and is nominally held in comtempt and abhorrence for all the stuff they have been doing, the SL and SLN can keep their nose out of the conflict.
How is the a serious probem for SL? Yet another neobarb nation is flipping it off.

2nd is that anyting that the SLN can move there before the IAN takes the orbitals and forces surrender of the system is going to be unable to actually do anything. Short of sending 100 SLN wallers- which would probably be mincemeat if they were rash enough to open fire on the IAN- it's NOT the SL/SLN's fight.

3rd is the obvious message that SL/SLN is NOT going to be able to keep systems from doing nasty things to one another. They just can't.

If the IA shows up at Mesa, sends a declaration of war as soon as it hits normal space and just goes in…..well, that is "within the rules". They even have an actual reason to do it beyond the cesspool that Mesa is. So the Alighment will turn out not to be there…..once they have the system, the IAE can go through the process to confirm or eliminate the actual involvement. It will be a bit late for the Masa government.

stewart wrote:Thoughts --

(1) The 12 SD / DN / CLAC footprints detected at end of COG were likely Mike and 10th Fleet -- numbers are about right with a couple of detachments left at Meyers and MacIntosh.

(2) Chien Lu and the IAN will likely arrive shortly -- note IAN also has FTL (at least at Buttercup development or better) so Mike will get a "I'm here" call to respond to (if she doesn't challenge the incoming footprint FTL)

(3) Do you REALLY think Chien-Lu Andermann / Hertzog Rabenstrange will arrive with ONLY 12 SD's ???
Seriously. Think 50+ SD's plus screen and support.

-- Stewart

I posted this earlier but if 10th Fleet hit Mesa. We know that 10th Fleet had 20 SD(P) 8 CLAC's 16 BC's. I figure 10th Fleet deployed as follows;

Main Body
8 SD(P)
4 CLAC
4 BC

Terminus Force
4 SD(P)
2 CLAC
4 BC

H-Limit Sweep Forces x2
2 SD(P)
1 CLAC
2 BC

H Limit Messengers
2 BC

It will be interesting to see if she gets found out and she accidently leads the GA to info on Alignment operations.