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HFQ Official Snippet #1

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by dwileye13   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:45 pm

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dwileye13 wrote:
runsforcelery wrote:
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“I don’t know,” she told him very quietly, her eyes deep and dark in the fire-spangled bedchamber’s dimness, “but I’ve come to suspect that wherever you truly come from is also where all of the Adams and Eves who awoke here on Safehold on the Day of Creation truly came from, as well.”


Now doesn't that inject some space for a wide variety of speculation.

Thank you RFC and best wishes to Sharon.


Aviah seems to reference her different personas as an acute 3rd Party. She also has a deep knowledge of specifics of the past. Her reference that the Adams and Eves came from somewhere to Safehold hints at a St. Zherneau level of understanding of the earliest times

AHHHHH - I have been deeply harboring those thoughts.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by n7axw   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:04 pm

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Whoaaaa.... I would say that if this were pinochle, the lady is still holding back an ace of trump to cover her last trick...

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by pokermind   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:51 pm

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[Snip]
Despite himself, Merlin blinked at her chosen comparison. Seijin Kohdy was deeply embedded in Safeholdian folklore, but unlike the double handful of “attested” seijins recorded in The Testimonies left by the Adams and Eves who’d survived Shan-Wei’s Rebellion and the War Against the Fallen, there was no historical record of him at all. Not only that, but while the seijins of The Testimonies were all sober, focused, intensely disciplined warriors for God, Archangels, and Church, Seijin Kohdy swirled through the tales about him like some sort of traveling conjurer or laughing vagabond. Or an Odysseus, perhaps. His times had been anything but humorous, yet the vast majority of those tales related as much to his craftiness, his ability to gain his objectives by guile and subterfuge as much as by the deadliness of Helm Cleaver, his magic sword . . . and to his humor, his weakness for attractive women, and his fondness for a glass of good whisky. Indeed, “Seijin Khody’s Premium Blend,” one of the most popular Chisholmian blended whiskies, was named for him, and its label featured not simply the magical sword which was inextricably bound up with his name but also an artist’s impression of Khody himself . . . with not one but two scantily clad barmaids sitting on his lap.

The stories about him were full of laughter and warmth, stories about someone who was very, very different from the officially recorded seijins, and Merlin had come to the conclusion that he was, in fact, a fictional creation. A construct, fashioned by later generations from the legend of the “real” seijins and seasoned with more than a dash of the trickster DNA so many of Old Earth’s mythologies had treasured.

It would appear, however, that Aivah was entirely serious, and that behooved him to move cautiously.

“Interesting you should bring up Seijin Kohdy,” he said after a moment. “Especially since I don’t recall him being mentioned in the official list of seijins who served the Church and the Archangels.”

“No, he isn’t,” she agreed, and her expression was suddenly much grimmer, her tone darker. “All of those ‘official’ seijins are saints of Mother Church, and he’s not listed there, either . . . now.”

“Now?” Merlin’s deep voice was gentler than it had been.

“Now,” she repeated. She uncrossed her legs, sitting up straighter, and her nostrils flared as she inhaled deeply. Then she looked directly into his eyes.

“Who are you really, Merlin?” she asked. “Where do you truly come from? And don’t just tell me ‘the Mountains of Light.’”

“Where else might I come from, Aivah?” he asked in return, holding out his arms in a gesture which took in not simply the bedchamber, nor even the Republic’s capital, but the entire world beyond them.

“I don’t know,” she told him very quietly, her eyes deep and dark in the fire-spangled bedchamber’s dimness, “but I’ve come to suspect that wherever you truly come from is also where all of the Adams and Eves who awoke here on Safehold on the Day of Creation truly came from, as well.”


One hopes the next Snippet will answer some of our speculations. One wonders if the Nunnery she was shipped off to was founded by another arrow in Shen Wei's quiver with some knowledge of the time prior to creation, perhaps founded by Seijin Kohdy himself ;) Will she tell of the papers of Seijin Kohdy? Tantalizing speculation.

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by PeterZ   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:29 pm

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One suspects that one was correct in one's speculation. Whatever Aivah's source of knowledge pertaining to seijins in general and Seijin Khody in particular, it very likely aided in Aivah's organizing her group or supported that organization well before Aivah was born.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by Chief-CWH   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:32 pm

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Thank you very much. It was get stale waiting for you.
I hope Sharon is feeling better. I know your taking very good care of her.
I know the kids are growing and into everything.
It is good to see you back.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by USMA74   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:48 pm

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Best to your family RFC/MWW. Thank you so much for the snippet. Writing for Uncle Sugar on various military topics I agree with your thoughts that late next spring is the earliest that I can exchange US federal reserve notes for the goods I desire from you in this universe. (Buying other products in the Honorverse.) However hope springs eternal. Thanks again for the snippet.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by Philip Stanley   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:55 pm

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RFC -
My eternal gratitude for beginning to post HFQ snippets! May the sun always shine upon your face, and the wind be always be at your back!!!
One question, though: Where did Aivah ever hear about Odysseus? - He's an old earth legend, and not likely part of Safehold mythology.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by Kufat   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:57 pm

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Philip Stanley wrote:Where did Aivah ever hear about Odysseus?


Merlin is the one who thought of Odysseus.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by BobG   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:01 pm

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I'm suddenly curious if Nimue is close to Aivah in size and shape. Could she go to Zion for her?

I'm also curious if Aivah (or her assistant) is the thousand year visitor? It could be that they could be as limited as Merlin in capabilities, unless they were willing to unleash the Rakurai.

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #1
Post by DrakBibliophile   » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:11 pm

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We already know that Aivah is the daughter of the current Grand Vicar.


BobG wrote:I'm suddenly curious if Nimue is close to Aivah in size and shape. Could she go to Zion for her?

I'm also curious if Aivah (or her assistant) is the thousand year visitor? It could be that they could be as limited as Merlin in capabilities, unless they were willing to unleash the Rakurai.

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