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Secret of St Zhernau

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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by PalmerSperry   » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:25 am

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n7axw wrote:Of course you have to consider that the inquisition never ferreted out the Brethren of St Zhernau on Charis either. That is because the Brethren operated openly, fading into the background of dozens, possibly hundreds of other small monastic orders. There was no reason to suspect them. The Brethren are not a secret order, but an open order with a secret to which very few, even amongst the Brethren are privy to.


Actually I think it's possible that the Inquisition does have a file on the Brethren of St Zhernau ... However given how cautious the Brethren where about sharing the truth, said file probably lists them as being of no interest "poor and mainly a place of spiritual retreat for members of the clergy who aren't going to amount to much in the hierarchy" or similar.

Which is perfect for the Brethren IMHO. Not being noticed by the Inquisition is great, but having the Inquisition record that you're terminal boring and of no interest is even better!
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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by fossten   » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:40 am

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kbus888 wrote:=2014/07/04=

Hardly fair not to give proper credit (even though it is given secretly for now)to the members of an organization that preserved the true historical treasures of the human race for literally centuries.

Furthermore, I believe Merlin was personally involved in the "great reveal" to all (or most of) the members if the current Charisian "inner circle".

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phillies wrote:One might imagine that it would could been effective to keep the secret, now, if new people brought into the inner circle were simply not told about St Zhernau. For example, when Merlin appeared in Irys's bedroom, he might have said 'I could say that I am from the company of the angels, and flew here by using the greater fire, but that would be imprecise, though not false. Perhaps I should save Hector's life, using what are angelic tools except I oversimplify, and then explain more."

The Brotherhood of St Zhernau then slowly fades from sight.

The people who knew about it must bite their tongue, but there are few links between it and Merlin.
I believe he was simply suggesting that Merlin could have finessed saving Hektor's life without telling Irys everything. Less risk and all that.
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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by DrakBibliophile   » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:50 pm

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Perhaps, but Irys knows that Merlin was in Siddarmark and knows that no human could travel so quickly.

IMO in that situation, telling her everything was completely necessary.

Now, if Irys knew that Merlin was in Cherayth, then he could "get away" with just claiming that healing Hektor was "just one of his Seijin abilities".

fossten wrote:I believe he was simply suggesting that Merlin could have finessed saving Hektor's life without telling Irys everything. Less risk and all that.
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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by fossten   » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:07 pm

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DrakBibliophile wrote:Perhaps, but Irys knows that Merlin was in Siddarmark and knows that no human could travel so quickly.

IMO in that situation, telling her everything was completely necessary.

Now, if Irys knew that Merlin was in Cherayth, then he could "get away" with just claiming that healing Hektor was "just one of his Seijin abilities".

fossten wrote:I believe he was simply suggesting that Merlin could have finessed saving Hektor's life without telling Irys everything. Less risk and all that.

You didn't read his post.
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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by DrakBibliophile   » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:34 pm

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Yes I did and my response would be the same. :)

fossten wrote:
DrakBibliophile wrote:Perhaps, but Irys knows that Merlin was in Siddarmark and knows that no human could travel so quickly.

IMO in that situation, telling her everything was completely necessary.

Now, if Irys knew that Merlin was in Cherayth, then he could "get away" with just claiming that healing Hektor was "just one of his Seijin abilities".



You didn't read his post.
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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by fossten   » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:41 pm

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DrakBibliophile wrote:Yes I did and my response would be the same. :)

Then you ignored his post, because he accounted for the travel time explanation that you ignored.

If you had read the post, I would have expected you to at least address his explanation rather than ignore it. Your post reads like you didn't even see it.
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Re: Secret of St Zhernau
Post by SWM   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:32 am

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fossten wrote:
DrakBibliophile wrote:Yes I did and my response would be the same. :)

Then you ignored his post, because he accounted for the travel time explanation that you ignored.

If you had read the post, I would have expected you to at least address his explanation rather than ignore it. Your post reads like you didn't even see it.

The explanation Phillies suggested for how Merlin traveled so fast was to claim to be a messenger from the Angels. But Merlin had already stated in no uncertain terms that he will not ever do that. Of course Drak ignored that proposal--the text has specifically ruled it out. And as Drak pointed out, Merlin could give no other explanation for how he traveled so quickly. The Truth was the only option.
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