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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Jonathan_S   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:22 am

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Amaroq wrote:I might be wandering into areas that might be uncomfortable for some but I hope it won't be too bad. I always had some question about prolong and reproduction. Specifically, how it affects female reproductive biology. Being a woman myself I wondered how prolong deals with the subjects of menstruation, fertility, menopause, etc...

It mainly came into focus with Honor's unexpected pregnancy and how she couldn't have known that her implant expired. I understand about not thinking to check medical records and paperwork but if the implant altered certain aspects of female reproductive biology than the reversion back to a "normal" state after it expired would probably have been recognizable (after all, a period is not exactly something you don't notice having).
I'm far from an expert, but couldn't Honor have gotten pregnant in the up to (roughly) a month between when her implant expired and when she would have had her first (post implant) period?

IIRC her implant didn't actually expire until after she was back on Manticore and in the relationship with Hamish and Emily.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Jonathan_S   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:23 am

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runsforcelery wrote:
Lord Skimper wrote:[snip]



This is the biggest hunk of nonsense I've seen in a long, long time. Do you actually read the books, or make it up as you go along? I only ask because you seem to fantasize your own solutions to problems --- frequently problems you invent as you go along --- which makes me wonder why I bothered to write the story in the first place. :roll:
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:29 am

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Jonathan_S wrote:
Amaroq wrote:I might be wandering into areas that might be uncomfortable for some but I hope it won't be too bad. I always had some question about prolong and reproduction. Specifically, how it affects female reproductive biology. Being a woman myself I wondered how prolong deals with the subjects of menstruation, fertility, menopause, etc...

It mainly came into focus with Honor's unexpected pregnancy and how she couldn't have known that her implant expired. I understand about not thinking to check medical records and paperwork but if the implant altered certain aspects of female reproductive biology than the reversion back to a "normal" state after it expired would probably have been recognizable (after all, a period is not exactly something you don't notice having).
I'm far from an expert, but couldn't Honor have gotten pregnant in the up to (roughly) a month between when her implant expired and when she would have had her first (post implant) period?

IIRC her implant didn't actually expire until after she was back on Manticore and in the relationship with Hamish and Emily.


I got the impression that the control nanites were separate from the BC implant. So she wouldn't have known at all that her implant had expired, because it didn't have anything to do with controlling her periods - that was a different device entirely.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by runsforcelery   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:52 pm

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roseandheather wrote:I got the impression that the control nanites were separate from the BC implant. So she wouldn't have known at all that her implant had expired, because it didn't have anything to do with controlling her periods - that was a different device entirely.



You got the correct impression. As to why the nanites exist, well, half the doctors in the Honorverse are female. :lol:


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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:06 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
I got the impression that the control nanites were separate from the BC implant. So she wouldn't have known at all that her implant had expired, because it didn't have anything to do with controlling her periods - that was a different device entirely.


After being reminded about the control nanites that was my impression of how it worked as well. Maybe they're available as a package but they can be gotten separately. After all, maybe you want to try getting pregnant but still don't want to have to deal with periods (which is perfectly understandable). Then you'd just get the nanites but not the implant.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by dreamrider   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:20 pm

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Bill Woods wrote:There might have been a leak in Mannerheim, since three termini is the mid-level version of the story.


Sorry, Bill.

Textev (in ToF mainly, I think) is that no one in Mannerheim who knows only the TOP SECRET '3 termini' story about Felix has any idea that Felix even remotely relates to Verdant Vista in any way. Remember that even the existence of ANY wormhole in Felix is TOP SECRET in the Mannerheim service.

The only folks who know of any relationship to Torch/Congo are a relative handful who are ALL MAlign star lines (including the entire crews of the BC squadron stationed at SGC-902-36-G).

That makes me highly doubt that any leak about the nature of a wormhole terminus hundreds of light years away in the Congo system came out of Mannerheim.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Spacekiwi   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:34 pm

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Hey, as guy whose seen what they can do to my girlfriend, I wouldn't be surprised if every girl wanted them, or had them. Heck, the makers could sell them at an almost usurious markup and still have a very large customer base.

runsforcelery wrote:
roseandheather wrote:I got the impression that the control nanites were separate from the BC implant. So she wouldn't have known at all that her implant had expired, because it didn't have anything to do with controlling her periods - that was a different device entirely.



You got the correct impression. As to why the nanites exist, well, half the doctors in the Honorverse are female. :lol:
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:41 pm

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Spacekiwi wrote:Hey, as guy whose seen what they can do to my girlfriend, I wouldn't be surprised if every girl wanted them, or had them. Heck, the makers could sell them at an almost usurious markup and still have a very large customer base.


Having had them put me in the ER, I would agree with you.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:08 pm

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You know what I want? I want an explanation of what the hell was going on in the Basilisk system after Honor and Fearless went tearing off after Sirius.

...which basically means I want to know what Estelle Matsuko was up to. :mrgreen:
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Hutch   » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:10 pm

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roseandheather wrote:You know what I want? I want an explanation of what the hell was going on in the Basilisk system after Honor and Fearless went tearing off after Sirius.

...which basically means I want to know what Estelle Matsuko was up to. :mrgreen:



You mean besides hiding under her desk?

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Seriously, there's not much she can do, given that there is no military unit outside her people and the Marines and Honor has already transmitted a Case Zulu so I expect that she would:

* See to it that Captain Papadapolous was aware of what was going on and provide him any necessary assistance.

* Meet with various Medusans "leaders" (from the cities that they dealt with) to explain what had happened and what was happening.

* Dealt with the dozens of calls from Manticorians and others who were wondering, in the words of Vincent Thomas Lombardi, "What the Hell is going on out there?"

* Dealt with the loud protests by the Havenites about the damamge to their courier...a conversation that would be short, pungent, and a joy for us to imagine (think Oversteengen and his cousin at Erewhon).

* In her spare time, worry...about the planet, about her future, and about her friend.

IMHO as always. YMMV.
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