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What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Hank Plantagenet   » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:43 pm

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With the industrialization of warfare on Safehold, the increased use of high explosives is going to produce a lot of horrific wounds. I know that the state of medicine is not that great on Safehold, and that the healers have their knives to kill the expectant cases with Pasquale's Grace, but certainly there will be some soldiers that survive blinded, or crippled, or missing limbs.

For example, from LAMA at the battle of Thesmar:

"One of the wounded was screaming, the sound high and shrill as he clawed at the bloody ruin of his face..."

If that man survives, what happens to him?


In addition to the physical injuries, there will be cases of men who are broken mentally. Whether you call it shell shock, or battle fatigue, or PTSD, there are going to be some who cannot take the high intensity battle.

What happens to them?
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Kizarvexis   » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:21 pm

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Hank Plantagenet wrote:With the industrialization of warfare on Safehold, the increased use of high explosives is going to produce a lot of horrific wounds. I know that the state of medicine is not that great on Safehold, and that the healers have their knives to kill the expectant cases with Pasquale's Grace, but certainly there will be some soldiers that survive blinded, or crippled, or missing limbs.

For example, from LAMA at the battle of Thesmar:

"One of the wounded was screaming, the sound high and shrill as he clawed at the bloody ruin of his face..."

If that man survives, what happens to him?


In addition to the physical injuries, there will be cases of men who are broken mentally. Whether you call it shell shock, or battle fatigue, or PTSD, there are going to be some who cannot take the high intensity battle.

What happens to them?


There are a lot of monastic orders on Safehold. Anyone who can not be supported by family or friends may get help in those orders. Or they become beggars on the street.
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Darman   » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:56 am

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Kizarvexis wrote:There are a lot of monastic orders on Safehold. Anyone who can not be supported by family or friends may get help in those orders. Or they become beggars on the street.


Wasn't there a Royal Navy Hospital during parts of the 18th and 19th centuries to tend the injured of the Royal Navy?
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by USMA74   » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:57 pm

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Darman wrote:
Kizarvexis wrote:There are a lot of monastic orders on Safehold. Anyone who can not be supported by family or friends may get help in those orders. Or they become beggars on the street.


Wasn't there a Royal Navy Hospital during parts of the 18th and 19th centuries to tend the injured of the Royal Navy?


From Wikipedia:

A Royal Naval Hospital (RNH) was a hospital operated by the British Royal Navy. No Royal Naval Hospitals survive as such, although some have become civilian hospitals and one remains as a tri-service military hospital.

Royal Naval Hospitals included:
United Kingdom Royal Naval Hospital Devonport, in Stonehouse, Plymouth; also known as RNH Stonehouse, closed during the 1990s
Royal Naval Hospital Gillingham, in Medway, Kent now Medway Maritime Hospital (NHS)
Royal Naval Hospital Greenwich, in London (no longer a functioning hospital, exists as a charity)
Royal Naval Hospital Haslar, near Portsmouth, changed to civilian hospital and renamed Royal Hospital Haslar, closed 2009.
Royal Naval Hospital, Portland, Dorset.
Overseas Royal Naval Hospital, Hong Kong (now Ruttonjee Hospital)
Royal Naval Hospital, Mauritius
Royal Naval Hospital, Bermuda
Royal Naval Hospital, Trincomalee Garrison, Ceylon (present-day Sri Lanka)
Royal Naval Hospital, Bighi, Malta
Royal Naval Hospital, Mtarfa, Malta
Royal Naval Hospital Gibraltar was replaced by PRMC Gibraltar (Princess Royal Medical Center Gibraltar), closed in 2007
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Darman   » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:38 pm

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Point being, the Royal Navy had a hospital or three, why can't Charis?

I know that in the Royal Army and Navy it wasn't uncommon to have a few extra men enrolled who didn't exist so that the commanding officer could draw their pay from the Treasury, and the good commanders would use it to pension off old soldiers or widows or those injured and maimed during a commission in the RN.
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Weird Harold   » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:38 pm

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Hank Plantagenet wrote:What happens to them?


If you can stand "British mysteries" The Maisie Dobbs Mysteries deal with British veterans of WWI. (Maisie, herself is a wounded veteran nurse of the VAD.) I would think that Charis' disabled veterans would get much the same sort of reception.

Interestingly, those WWI veterans with facial injuries were the inspiration for the beginning of Plastic Surgery as a specialization.
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Hank Plantagenet   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:08 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
If you can stand "British mysteries" The Maisie Dobbs Mysteries deal with British veterans of WWI. (Maisie, herself is a wounded veteran nurse of the VAD.) I would think that Charis' disabled veterans would get much the same sort of reception.

Interestingly, those WWI veterans with facial injuries were the inspiration for the beginning of Plastic Surgery as a specialization.


I suppose Charis will have to set up a Vheterans Ahdministration until regeneration hospitals can be set up planetwide.
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by n7axw   » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:11 pm

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It could be that the answer to this is more optimistic than we are prone to think. Safehold medicine does not employ the scientific method. But it does have the teachings of Pascal which were considerably more modern than anythin Terra had prior to the 20th century. I wonder if it had anything like Sulfa drugs... At least they knew enough to keep the wounds clean.

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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by saber964   » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:29 pm

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n7axw wrote:It could be that the answer to this is more optimistic than we are prone to think. Safehold medicine does not employ the scientific method. But it does have the teachings of Pascal which were considerably more modern than anythin Terra had prior to the 20th century. I wonder if it had anything like Sulfa drugs... At least they knew enough to keep the wounds clean.

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Safeholdian medicen is at about the level of earths medical tech of 1900.
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Re: What happens to the severely wounded who survive?
Post by Ishkandar   » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:03 pm

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At the level of culture and technology that Safehold is, a good description of what *may* happen is a poem by Rudyard Kipling - The last of the Light Brigade !! I believe it's available online !!!
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