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The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition

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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by hanuman   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:34 pm

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Harkness just isn't the type of personality suited to officer's rank, no sirree, not at all. Besides, he won't need it in order to remain with Scotty - admirals have a whole lot of say in who is picked for their staffs, and this is one point I suspect Scotty will fight for with everything he's got.

But people, I am shocked and dismayed that NO ONE has mentioned one of the most important relationships in the entire series! Andrew and Nimitz!
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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by Amaroq   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:57 pm

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Can we have relationships between star nations and not just people? Because the connection between the SEM and Grayson (notwithstanding High Ridge's foolery) has been nigh-unbreakable for decades now.

And on a less front-and-center note, there's Manticore's relationship with Beowulf. I'm glad we're starting to see it more after only really hearing about it in the background for awhile.
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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by Vince   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:37 pm

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Dafmeister wrote:
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Don't forget her relationship with Alfredo Yu. That was probably even rockier initially than Caslet.


I suspect you're right on that. Warner she knew from Silesia and Cerberus. I'm not sure she'd even met Alfredo Yu until he was revealed as her flag captain - he wasn't in Yeltsin's Star when Honor hit the Blackbird base, and he was already off Thunder of God when it arrived for Second Yeltsin.

She met Alfredo Yu before he was assigned as her flag captain in Yeltsin.

Hamish Alexander speaking:
The Honor of the Queen, Chapter 35 wrote:"I also have to inform you that a certain Captain Alredo Yu, lately in the service of the People's Republic of Haven, was picked up in Endicott. He's requested asylum from the Crown." Harrington straightened in her chair, her eye very intent, and he nodded. "I'll be sending him home aboard your ship, Captain, and I expect you to show him the courtesy due his rank."

Replying to Mercedes Brigham
Flag in Exile, Chapter 9 wrote:"Thank you," Honor said, equally quietly, then shook herself and turned back to her new flag captain. "Well, Captain Yu, it seems we've all come up in the world since last we met, doesn't it?"
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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by cthia   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:15 pm

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Dafmeister wrote:
Amaroq wrote:
Don't forget her relationship with Alfredo Yu. That was probably even rockier initially than Caslet.


I suspect you're right on that. Warner she knew from Silesia and Cerberus. I'm not sure she'd even met Alfredo Yu until he was revealed as her flag captain - he wasn't in Yeltsin's Star when Honor hit the Blackbird base, and he was already off Thunder of God when it arrived for Second Yeltsin.

Um, it was Alfreda Yu, whose first name it took Honor a long time to use, Not Warner. Sorry, my bad. :oops:

I also like the warmth between Gwen Archer and Helga Boltitz. Sure, it seems to have possibilities, but a friendship was formed first. A very trusting friendship. Helga was a tough nut to crack. I thought Archer would crash and burn. I like the part Helen played with them.

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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by gloves   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:40 pm

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Actually, the one that intrigues me most is the one between Caparelli and White Haven. Rivals since boyhood and coming from different social strata, what started as guarded and uneasy respect has developed into a close and trusting working partnership.

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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by cthia   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:24 pm

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I love the Mayhew kids and Nimitz back in the early days when Nimitz was the lone treecat on Grayson. I'd of liked to have seen someone threaten those kids in Nimitz' presence. Like 'The Thing' ... It's shredding time!

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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by SpaceManSpiff   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:04 pm

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Honor and Andrea.
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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by JohnS   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:14 pm

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Dafmeister wrote:If anyone is stupid enough to kidnap Ruth, Manticore's policy on the matter is going to be of tangential concern at most. The people you want to be worried about are Thandi Palane, Victor Cachat, Anton Zilwicki, Jeremy X and the entire Audubon Ballroom. Possibly also the Biological Survey Corps.


This would be a fight as well-matched as Battle Fleet versus the RMN. But I'd eagerly read it anyway! :)
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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:15 pm

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SpaceManSpiff wrote:Honor and Andrea.


Love Honor and Andrea. Their story arc in Ashes of Victory is one of the things that makes it among my favorite Honorverse titles ever.
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Re: The Greatest Relationships - Platonic Edition
Post by hanuman   » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:41 pm

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cthia wrote:I love the Mayhew kids and Nimitz back in the early days when Nimitz was the lone treecat on Grayson. I'd of liked to have seen someone threaten those kids in Nimitz' presence. Like 'The Thing' ... It's shredding time!


Okay, I know Mr Weber has always made it clear that the series would focus on humans, and that any aliens in the books would only ever take a secondary role in the storyline. That is fine with me.

However, one of the things I've always loved about sci-fi is the speculation about alien species, what their physical appearance and societies would be like, how that would be informed by their physical environment, and how they would interact with each others.

While I agree that the earlier books' depiction of Nimitz was really great, I have to say that I much prefer the later books when we see more treecats appearing in the books, precisely because it allows us to see how they interact with each other, rather than with humans only.
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