Cupid

roseandheather wrote:Warner Caslet and anybody. That man deserves love if anyone does. (I'll admit there was a time when I shipped him and Shannon, but now Sonja.)

Hmmmmm. Rachel Mayhew??

I always figured Arner would end up with Mercades. At first I thought Yew and Mercades, but they had the whole back history, even if not directly. Warner on the other hand, he is free and clear for Mercades.

How about Scotty with Abigail? or Helen??

Now if Cupid could just shoot one of the girls I have been talking to with the Oakius formula things would be right in the Universe.

Commodore Oakius wrote:

roseandheather wrote:Warner Caslet and anybody. That man deserves love if anyone does. (I'll admit there was a time when I shipped him and Shannon, but now Sonja.)

Hmmmmm. Rachel Mayhew??

I always figured Arner would end up with Mercades. At first I thought Yew and Mercades, but they had the whole back history, even if not directly. Warner on the other hand, he is free and clear for Mercades.

How about Scotty with Abigail? or Helen??

Now if Cupid could just shoot one of the girls I have been talking to with the Oakius formula things would be right in the Universe.

Helen's taken (Paulo D'Arezzo, remember?) and Abigail is Michael Oversteegen's. (Though I wouldn't grumble - far from it - if she wound up with Warner.)

I have my suspicions that Scotty is going to wind up with a Havenite, actually. (Not Shannon, though. Shannon is Sonja's.)

I'm actually quite interested in the possibilities of Mercedes/Alfredo - they seem to have got past whatever their issues were quite nicely, and it would be quite a powerful storyline too, I think. Caslet's a bit too young for her IMO - remember, she was already fairly weathered by the time of OBS, and Warner was still almost a baby in naval terms by the time of HAE.

Allen Higgins, obviously, is mine.

Commodore Oakius wrote:

roseandheather wrote:Warner Caslet and anybody. That man deserves love if anyone does. (I'll admit there was a time when I shipped him and Shannon, but now Sonja.)

Hmmmmm. Rachel Mayhew??

I always figured Arner would end up with Mercades. At first I thought Yew and Mercades, but they had the whole back history, even if not directly. Warner on the other hand, he is free and clear for Mercades.

How about Scotty with Abigail? or Helen??

Now if Cupid could just shoot one of the girls I have been talking to with the Oakius formula things would be right in the Universe.

roseandheather wrote:
Helen's taken (Paulo D'Arezzo, remember?) and Abigail is Michael Oversteegen's. (Though I wouldn't grumble - far from it - if she wound up with Warner.)

I have my suspicions that Scotty is going to wind up with a Havenite, actually. (Not Shannon, though. Shannon is Sonja's.)

I'm actually quite interested in the possibilities of Mercedes/Alfredo - they seem to have got past whatever their issues were quite nicely, and it would be quite a powerful storyline too, I think. Caslet's a bit too young for her IMO - remember, she was already fairly weathered by the time of OBS, and Warner was still almost a baby in naval terms by the time of HAE.

Allen Higgins, obviously, is mine.

Now let's think about this age difference with Warner and Mercedes a bit. There's prolong, and after a while...
Besides, there's something to be said about a young man and an older woman. There's a certain 'raw' appeal.

Truthfully, I'd just really like Mercedes to find someone special, to love her...and kiss and cuddle, after that heart wrenching ordeal she faced with Mai-ling while on Blackbird. I just hope she doesn't have any latent psychological issues preventing intimacy. I hope someone sweeps her off her feet, but quickly. An encounter with a young Warner Caslet may just be the ticket for her. Oh the power of youth in a relationship. If it's okay for Honor to have a much older man, then it's okay for Warner too.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Speaking of which, what is the difference in Hamish and Honor's age in comparison to Mercedes and Warner?

roseandheather wrote: I'm actually quite interested in the possibilities of Mercedes/Alfredo - they seem to have got past whatever their issues were quite nicely, and it would be quite a powerful storyline too, I think. Caslet's a bit too young for her IMO - remember, she was already fairly weathered by the time of OBS, and Warner was still almost a baby in naval terms by the time of HAE.

Given her location as part of Honor's staff, I was always a bit intrigued with Mercedes finding the man of her dreams in someone she had been trying to blow apart for years....Thomas Theisman....

Hutch wrote:

roseandheather wrote: I'm actually quite interested in the possibilities of Mercedes/Alfredo - they seem to have got past whatever their issues were quite nicely, and it would be quite a powerful storyline too, I think. Caslet's a bit too young for her IMO - remember, she was already fairly weathered by the time of OBS, and Warner was still almost a baby in naval terms by the time of HAE.

Given her location as part of Honor's staff, I was always a bit intrigued with Mercedes finding the man of her dreams in someone she had been trying to blow apart for years....Thomas Theisman....

...I am torn between wailing, "But he is always and forever Eloise's!!" and going down on bended knee to beg RFC to make this happen.

Which, of course, is contingent on my "Eloise-finding-second-love vs. Eloise-carries-on-as-a-de-facto-widow" dilemma. (I've been going back and forth on the "should Eloise find love again or not" debate for literally years.)

I wonder how Tom and Mercedes' relationship would be affected by working together to blow other, infinitely more pernicious people apart??

Sheesh. 57 pages. I got 26 in before giving up and going to the end to put in my two cents.

Eloise Pritchart/Tom Theisman
Sonja Hemphill/Michael Oversteegen (sorry, Rose!)
Shannon Foraker/Herlander Simoes
Scotty Tremaine/Naomi Kaplan
Dame Estelle Matsuo/Augustus Khumalo
Gwen Archer/Helga Boltitz
Albrecht Detweiler/rusty chainsaw

Eloise and Tom - they already mean that much to one another, maybe their treecat friends can point it out to them.

Hemphill/Oversteegen - It'd take a lot for anyone to put up with either of them. Here, they'd each find the rare combination of sufficient brains, sufficient spunk, and compatible politics and background to make it work.

Foraker/Simoes - Technological nerd singularity, just happens to be heterosexual this time. I think having someone to work with will be good for Herlander to establish a level of trust and rapport so he can get better, and their very different backgrounds but similar future trajectories can work out. Shannon's going to be able to treat him simply as a colleague, and not a traitor, basket-case, security risk, or intelligence asset, and she's going to be his chief immediate partner in making the Alignment pay for Francesca.

Tremaine/Kaplan - Comparable ages, similar careers, both feisty combatants but well aware of the costs. They may each have some wild oats to sow, but perhaps not so much that they can't begin shaping mutual approach vectors.

Dame Estelle and Khumalo - Very good working relationship and a comfortable, fond chemistry.

Gwen/Helga - sheesh, any time is about time, kids. And I cackle thinking of bringing Helga's accent back home to Gwen's mother.

Detweiler/chainsaw - Yes, I realize it's a horrible sacrifice to ask of a fine and noble power tool, but the job needs doing.

I'm amused at the Higgins/Chin ship, and I do wish them both the best - there's just not much reason it'd be one another. Could happen, I suppose.

JeffEngel wrote:Sheesh. 57 pages. I got 26 in before giving up and going to the end to put in my two cents.

Eloise Pritchart/Tom Theisman
Sonja Hemphill/Michael Oversteegen (sorry, Rose!)
Shannon Foraker/Herlander Simoes
Scotty Tremaine/Naomi Kaplan
Dame Estelle Matsuo/Augustus Khumalo
Gwen Archer/Helga Boltitz
Albrecht Detweiler/rusty chainsaw

Eloise and Tom - they already mean that much to one another, maybe their treecat friends can point it out to them.

Hemphill/Oversteegen - It'd take a lot for anyone to put up with either of them. Here, they'd each find the rare combination of sufficient brains, sufficient spunk, and compatible politics and background to make it work.

Foraker/Simoes - Technological nerd singularity, just happens to be heterosexual this time. I think having someone to work with will be good for Herlander to establish a level of trust and rapport so he can get better, and their very different backgrounds but similar future trajectories can work out. Shannon's going to be able to treat him simply as a colleague, and not a traitor, basket-case, security risk, or intelligence asset, and she's going to be his chief immediate partner in making the Alignment pay for Francesca.

Tremaine/Kaplan - Comparable ages, similar careers, both feisty combatants but well aware of the costs. They may each have some wild oats to sow, but perhaps not so much that they can't begin shaping mutual approach vectors.

Dame Estelle and Khumalo - Very good working relationship and a comfortable, fond chemistry.

Gwen/Helga - sheesh, any time is about time, kids. And I cackle thinking of bringing Helga's accent back home to Gwen's mother.

Detweiler/chainsaw - Yes, I realize it's a horrible sacrifice to ask of a fine and noble power tool, but the job needs doing.

I'm amused at the Higgins/Chin ship, and I do wish them both the best - there's just not much reason it'd be one another. Could happen, I suppose.

EXCUSE ME WHILE I KIDNAP YOU FOREVER.

Let's get one thing out of the way first - I have been championing Augustus/Estelle literally since I first joined this board and in fact for quite some time before that. Just look at that one exchange in SoF - the mere sight of his face on her comm can make her smile. DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THESE TWO OR I WILL NEVER STOP.

And that's just mean to the poor chainsaw. I hope you're planning to clean it up afterward.

Sonja/Oversteegen - now there is an interesting possibility. They're from two entirely different generations, but so are Hamish and Honor, so... As far as Oversteegen goes, my first (and still favorite) partner for him is Abi Hearns, but that may be because it would essentially be a Regency romance In SPACE! and. Uh. I am a female with all the typical weaknesses of the species. Including Regency romances. My other, later thought was Oversteegen/Michelle Henke, because let's face it, there's got to be at least a bit of sexual frustration in all that bickering. (This is when I'm not 'shipping her with Tourville, of course.) Oversteegen and Sonja, though.... it would either go very, very well, or it would blow up in extremely spectacular fashion. They can both be quite irritating at times - and I say this with pure, unadulterated love - but they're also extremely smart, and they do come from similar backgrounds. (That said, I still champion Sonja/Shannon for three reasons: one, the Honorverse needs prominent lesbians, and these two are prime candidates; two, the sexiest thing to any geek is another geek's extremely clever brain; and three, they've practically been flirting with each other through technology upgrades since the Republic was restored and Shannon got put in charge of Bolthole.)

Tom/Eloise: this is another one I go back and forth on. I've speculated before that Eloise Pritchart may be the kind of person who can only love that way once in her life, and if that's true, she's never going to fall in love again, because she can't. But if she isn't that type of person, then in my mind the only choice for her is Tom Theisman. I've suspected that Tom's been quietly in love with her at least since he took her hand while she agonized over whether or not to launch Beatrice, and I would not at all be surprised if he's been carrying a torch for her since he first offered her the Republic. And as for Eloise - well, he's already inside her shell. She can't close him out because she's terrified to lose him, because it would already devastate her to lose him. And if, in fact, she does find love again, I think that one day she'll wake up and find that she's loved Thomas Theisman for a very long time, and that he's waited patiently for her until she'd grieved enough to become aware of it.

People have been postulating theoretical romantic counterparts for Scotty Tremaine on this board since long before I ever got here, and it's something I've rather stayed out of, because I honestly don't have that much of an opinion where he's concerned (except to 'ship him and Alice Truman). But I can't help but think that Naomi would eat poor Scotty alive. (I've actually speculated that she'd do well with Jacob Zavala.)

Foraker/Simoes: This is another one people were tossing around before I even got here, and my opinion on this is simple - he's too broken. Sorry. I want to give him an enormous hug, but I don't think he's in any kind of shape to become emotionally involved with anything or anyone, ever, at least until the MAlign has been wiped from existence - and possibly the rest of his life. Some wounds are just too deep.

As for Gwen and Helga - well, they just need a good hard clobbering with a cluebat. Or several.

roseandheather wrote:EXCUSE ME WHILE I KIDNAP YOU FOREVER.

Let's get one thing out of the way first - I have been championing Augustus/Estelle literally since I first joined this board and in fact for quite some time before that. Just look at that one exchange in SoF - the mere sight of his face on her comm can make her smile. DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THESE TWO OR I WILL NEVER STOP.

Tee hee! I do wonder if it'd ever occur to him. Dame Estelle, I am confident that she knows exactly what she wants, how she wants it, and what getting it will require.

And that's just mean to the poor chainsaw. I hope you're planning to clean it up afterward.

The Chainsaw will get a capital letter, a Parliamentary Medal of Valor, cleaned thoroughly, and mounted with honor (no capital letter!) in Mount Royal Palace.

Sonja/Oversteegen - now there is an interesting possibility. They're from two entirely different generations, but so are Hamish and Honor, so... As far as Oversteegen goes, my first (and still favorite) partner for him is Abi Hearns, but that may be because it would essentially be a Regency romance In SPACE! and. Uh. I am a female with all the typical weaknesses of the species. Including Regency romances. My other, later thought was Oversteegen/Michelle Henke, because let's face it, there's got to be at least a bit of sexual frustration in all that bickering. (This is when I'm not 'shipping her with Tourville, of course.) Oversteegen and Sonja, though.... it would either go very, very well, or it would blow up in extremely spectacular fashion. They can both be quite irritating at times - and I say this with pure, unadulterated love - but they're also extremely smart, and they do come from similar backgrounds. (That said, I still champion Sonja/Shannon for three reasons: one, the Honorverse needs prominent lesbians, and these two are prime candidates; two, the sexiest thing to any geek is another geek's extremely clever brain; and three, they've practically been flirting with each other through technology upgrades since the Republic was restored and Shannon got put in charge of Bolthole.)

I concede the force of all three points. However, until I've got some positive reason to think otherwise, I suppose any given character is more or less heterosexual and heteroromantic, so I'm not going to force some orientation change on someone to suit shipping interests. Politely encourage, maybe. I just don't see the two of them clicking on that level. If I knew for a fact that both of them fancied women, I'd consider it more seriously and still not see it happening.

Sonja and Michael though - each of them needs someone else with towering brains and ego, else the partner will end up a mere orbiting satellite or just trying to catch up.

I don't get the sense of any UST between Henke and Oversteegen. It's more like, perhaps, resolved and finished sexual tension, or that cousin who dropped jello on your head every family reunion for ten years.

Tom/Eloise: this is another one I go back and forth on. I've speculated before that Eloise Pritchart may be the kind of person who can only love that way once in her life, and if that's true, she's never going to fall in love again, because she can't. But if she isn't that type of person, then in my mind the only choice for her is Tom Theisman. I've suspected that Tom's been quietly in love with her at least since he took her hand while she agonized over whether or not to launch Beatrice, and I would not at all be surprised if he's been carrying a torch for her since he first offered her the Republic. And as for Eloise - well, he's already inside her shell. She can't close him out because she's terrified to lose him, because it would already devastate her to lose him. And if, in fact, she does find love again, I think that one day she'll wake up and find that she's loved Thomas Theisman for a very long time, and that he's waited patiently for her until she'd grieved enough to become aware of it.

I'm not sure he's patiently waiting so much as oblivious to the shape (or potential) of the feelings too. This is why I can see treecat friends as pointing out one of those things the silly two-legs cannot figure out for themselves. "You guys aren't mates why?"

People have been postulating theoretical romantic counterparts for Scotty Tremaine on this board since long before I ever got here, and it's something I've rather stayed out of, because I honestly don't have that much of an opinion where he's concerned (except to 'ship him and Alice Truman). But I can't help but think that Naomi would eat poor Scotty alive. (I've actually speculated that she'd do well with Jacob Zavala.)

She might, yes. But then, have we any idea if he's even available? And I think Scotty could handle it. He's got fortitude and stamina!

Foraker/Simoes: This is another one people were tossing around before I even got here, and my opinion on this is simple - he's too broken. Sorry. I want to give him an enormous hug, but I don't think he's in any kind of shape to become emotionally involved with anything or anyone, ever, at least until the MAlign has been wiped from existence - and possibly the rest of his life. Some wounds are just too deep.

Ever is a long time, especially with prolong. And even broken people love. Shannon may have an especially good frame of mind for such a person, in fact: here's a problem, here are limited resources to solve it - get to work. Given uphill battles, she's eked great data out of crappy sensors, preserved the fugitives from Tepes, set up protection of her fleet from StateSec under their noses, and recovered the position of the RHN from the wrong side of multiple Manticoran technical advances. Making the heart of Herlander Simoes work again, even after grievous damage done by saboteurs, is perhaps not the particular field she's expert in, but she wouldn't be overcome by the seemingly hopeless situation there and she's proven her ability to get at a problem with patience and cunning.

As for Gwen and Helga - well, they just need a good hard clobbering with a cluebat. Or several.

I'd also be amused if someone tries to clobber them with the cluebat to be told they've been a happy stealth couple for years already.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:EXCUSE ME WHILE I KIDNAP YOU FOREVER.

Let's get one thing out of the way first - I have been championing Augustus/Estelle literally since I first joined this board and in fact for quite some time before that. Just look at that one exchange in SoF - the mere sight of his face on her comm can make her smile. DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THESE TWO OR I WILL NEVER STOP.

Tee hee! I do wonder if it'd ever occur to him. Dame Estelle, I am confident that she knows exactly what she wants, how she wants it, and what getting it will require.

Oh, it wouldn't. Occur to him, that is. He'd be totally clueless. Absolutely in the dark. Wouldn't have any idea that she could feel the same way. In fact, I'm not even sure he'd be aware that he felt that way about her!

No, it would probably take Estelle pinning him up against a wall and kissing him stupid to get the message across, and frankly, I'm not even sure that would work. She might have to just drag him to bed.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:And that's just mean to the poor chainsaw. I hope you're planning to clean it up afterward.

The Chainsaw will get a capital letter, a Parliamentary Medal of Valor, cleaned thoroughly, and mounted with honor (no capital letter!) in Mount Royal Palace.

That's better.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:Sonja/Oversteegen - now there is an interesting possibility. They're from two entirely different generations, but so are Hamish and Honor, so... As far as Oversteegen goes, my first (and still favorite) partner for him is Abi Hearns, but that may be because it would essentially be a Regency romance In SPACE! and. Uh. I am a female with all the typical weaknesses of the species. Including Regency romances. My other, later thought was Oversteegen/Michelle Henke, because let's face it, there's got to be at least a bit of sexual frustration in all that bickering. (This is when I'm not 'shipping her with Tourville, of course.) Oversteegen and Sonja, though.... it would either go very, very well, or it would blow up in extremely spectacular fashion. They can both be quite irritating at times - and I say this with pure, unadulterated love - but they're also extremely smart, and they do come from similar backgrounds. (That said, I still champion Sonja/Shannon for three reasons: one, the Honorverse needs prominent lesbians, and these two are prime candidates; two, the sexiest thing to any geek is another geek's extremely clever brain; and three, they've practically been flirting with each other through technology upgrades since the Republic was restored and Shannon got put in charge of Bolthole.)

I concede the force of all three points. However, until I've got some positive reason to think otherwise, I suppose any given character is more or less heterosexual and heteroromantic, so I'm not going to force some orientation change on someone to suit shipping interests. Politely encourage, maybe. I just don't see the two of them clicking on that level. If I knew for a fact that both of them fancied women, I'd consider it more seriously and still not see it happening.

Sonja and Michael though - each of them needs someone else with towering brains and ego, else the partner will end up a mere orbiting satellite or just trying to catch up.

I don't get the sense of any UST between Henke and Oversteegen. It's more like, perhaps, resolved and finished sexual tension, or that cousin who dropped jello on your head every family reunion for ten years.

Oh, come on! Assuming everyone's straight? That's no fair! Much more fun to assume everyone's bisexual until proven otherwise. (Particularly in this universe.) Of course, that might just be personal bias on my part.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:Tom/Eloise: this is another one I go back and forth on. I've speculated before that Eloise Pritchart may be the kind of person who can only love that way once in her life, and if that's true, she's never going to fall in love again, because she can't. But if she isn't that type of person, then in my mind the only choice for her is Tom Theisman. I've suspected that Tom's been quietly in love with her at least since he took her hand while she agonized over whether or not to launch Beatrice, and I would not at all be surprised if he's been carrying a torch for her since he first offered her the Republic. And as for Eloise - well, he's already inside her shell. She can't close him out because she's terrified to lose him, because it would already devastate her to lose him. And if, in fact, she does find love again, I think that one day she'll wake up and find that she's loved Thomas Theisman for a very long time, and that he's waited patiently for her until she'd grieved enough to become aware of it.

I'm not sure he's patiently waiting so much as oblivious to the shape (or potential) of the feelings too. This is why I can see treecat friends as pointing out one of those things the silly two-legs cannot figure out for themselves. "You guys aren't mates why?"

I think he would know, honestly. (Seemingly) unrequited love tends to make itself known sooner rather than later, and in a fairly painful manner. That said, he is a man, so cluelessness is a definite possibility. Either way, I think treecats getting involved to clear the whole thing up is basically a given.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:People have been postulating theoretical romantic counterparts for Scotty Tremaine on this board since long before I ever got here, and it's something I've rather stayed out of, because I honestly don't have that much of an opinion where he's concerned (except to 'ship him and Alice Truman). But I can't help but think that Naomi would eat poor Scotty alive. (I've actually speculated that she'd do well with Jacob Zavala.)

She might, yes. But then, have we any idea if he's even available? And I think Scotty could handle it. He's got fortitude and stamina!

Well, yes, he does, but I think it might take more than fortitude and stamina to keep up with Naomi Kaplan.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:Foraker/Simoes: This is another one people were tossing around before I even got here, and my opinion on this is simple - he's too broken. Sorry. I want to give him an enormous hug, but I don't think he's in any kind of shape to become emotionally involved with anything or anyone, ever, at least until the MAlign has been wiped from existence - and possibly the rest of his life. Some wounds are just too deep.

Ever is a long time, especially with prolong. And even broken people love. Shannon may have an especially good frame of mind for such a person, in fact: here's a problem, here are limited resources to solve it - get to work. Given uphill battles, she's eked great data out of crappy sensors, preserved the fugitives from Tepes, set up protection of her fleet from StateSec under their noses, and recovered the position of the RHN from the wrong side of multiple Manticoran technical advances. Making the heart of Herlander Simoes work again, even after grievous damage done by saboteurs, is perhaps not the particular field she's expert in, but she wouldn't be overcome by the seemingly hopeless situation there and she's proven her ability to get at a problem with patience and cunning.

I will certainly concede Shannon's record with seemingly impossible challenges, so I will simply point to my primary objection: Shannon/Sonja.

JeffEngel wrote:

roseandheather wrote:As for Gwen and Helga - well, they just need a good hard clobbering with a cluebat. Or several.

I'd also be amused if someone tries to clobber them with the cluebat to be told they've been a happy stealth couple for years already.

I would not be surprised if this was the case. At all. If I was Gwen Archer, I would want my admiral to know as little about my love life as possible, lest she tease me unmercifully about it. I love Michelle Henke almost more than life, but we do share a sense of humor, and if I was my flag lieutenant, I wouldn't tell me either!

Detweiler and chainsaw. Funnnnnny.

Out of the 57 pages, I don't recall anyone shipping Hemphill and Oversteegen. And I gotta say, it is most interesting. It has potential, that ship. It could certainly make future war games interesting!

Scotty really needs to get married. His ace-boon-coon Harkness is. And I know how difficult it can be when one friend is a family man and the other isn't. It warms my heart thinking about beauty and the beast and their mates all laughing together playing bridge.

As per Sonja and Shannon, I don't know if either of them are attracted to women, BUT, any male that paid attention in High School, then later college, knows that females have the distinct social advantage of being able to 'experiment' with the same sex and wake up the next morning as if nothing ever happened, as a given. And it's enough for me to just fantasize about the night of the great experiment. After all, even though the argument of the origins of the term bff rages on, no one disputes that it has its birth in the bosom of women. And I will always support any set of girls who are bed-friends-forever.

I notice, JeffEngel, that you didn't attempt to ship Michelle. She's just a tough nut to pop, err crack, err split eh? ... Doh!

You know, Alice Truman has a lot to offer. Both militarily and intimately. I still maintain that she is in possession of one of the top most tactical minds in the 'verse. She just has to believe in it herself. It's certainly in her genes. But she always seems to be a loner when it comes to affairs of the heart. Perhaps it's just a matter of her not consciously realizing that she's in the closet - that she's interested in women. Could be that she surrounds herself with a bevy of blonde males because she gets on so well with them. Gets on so nicely because she's, well, one of the boys?

And if she is just one of the boys, then ... Mercedes Brigham might just need the tender machinations of a woman just now. A mighty lovely lesbian nightly interlude just might be the ticket for them both.

roseandheather wrote:Gwen/Helga - sheesh, any time is about time, kids. And I cackle thinking of bringing Helga's accent back home to Gwen's mother.

Caught the hiccups laughing at this. Been there!

roseandheather wrote:... (That said, I still champion Sonja/Shannon for three reasons: one, the Honorverse needs prominent lesbians, and these two are prime candidates; two, the sexiest thing to any geek is another geek's extremely clever brain; and three, they've practically been flirting with each other through technology upgrades since the Republic was restored and Shannon got put in charge of Bolthole.)

This is so amusing Ro-, no, amusing my ass, this is downright hilarious! Only a woman, lesbian or no, can ever figure out the fists-and-fights to foreplay. You all know that my fiancee is English (her proud fiance won't shut up about it right?) Incidentally, she calls makeup sex "bickers to knickers." The thought of a Shannon-Sonja 'courting by broadsides' going on, in the midst of heated battles, cranks my shaft.

roseandheather wrote:No, it would probably take Estelle pinning him up against a wall and kissing him stupid to get the message across, and frankly, I'm not even sure that would work. She might have to just drag him to bed.

And now, protocol demands a cold shower from that vivid imagery. Where's my fiancee when I need her? Gemmmma!