Using Silverlode - Spoiler

Hi SYED,

Having at least the appearance of having all the money in the world can indeed be very threatening, especially to people who used to think they did, because they fear how it now might be used against them.

Which is one reason I'm looking forward to the Go4 meeting where the Silverlode discovery is discussed.

Investment in Siddarmark is an obvious given, but I suspect the new republic will be so huge, thanks to controlling if not owning outright the ex-border states and the western half of the temple lands besides allied with Silkiah, Dohlar if they or large parts aren't also part of the new republic, easily the largest single nation on the planet [twice its old size], with a population of 300 million or more [Border States 102 M, west KotTL ~44M, probably plus part of Dohlar and Harchong western provinces], with most of its new citizens very happy to have all the opportunities to achieve all they can be.

That would certainly terrify what's left of the temple knights, Harchong, Delferahk or Desnar in my mind.

NTM there have been previous posts regarding spending to buy slaves, including mine to 'buy Sodar' to provide a refuge for escaped and liberated slaves from the rest of Howard.

Again, building such a canal through the mountains between Haven and Howard wasn't possible for Shan-wei, so I doubt the EoC will waste any money there, though widening the current canal is possible, but as previously discussed, finding the required water will be the most difficult yet important part.

At best incorporating the Raven-lords into the EoC, if it ever happens, will require a couple of generations of good will, friendly helpful investment in education, medicine and infrastructure, NTM mutual respect, but given the fact that Chisholm's population alone is ~120 times that of the Raven Lords it won't be a top priority.

L

SYED wrote:There has been talk about the wealth being use to build the empire, but what about else where. I can see some of it used to build up the republic, into something that terrifiies the church. WHile they stomp on threats in haven, haris can create a superior canal/waterway built between haven and howard.

Also, i see the imperium being biginvestors anywhere not on have n of howard, to giving them influence on areas, so that eventually they can be folded into the empire. THey are going to need bases and out posts on islands, even just for coalling stations. the lands of the ravenlords, I can see moneyy flowing in helping the people and the lords, till one day they would willing join as there would be no difference to the change.

The Raven Lords and Trellheim can join the Empire whenever they wish. Charisian wealth either lures those lordlings in or it won't. Regardless, they will Leave Charis alone as long as they are left alone. Making that offer and the terms of incorporation into the Empire known wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

Do the same for any mainland realm. After this initial phase of the war, I am sure there will be interest. Sodar and Greentree Island might well be among them.

The Raven Lords have already shown that they're smart enough to avoid annoying the Empire.

Trellheim might be another matter but likely they've learned long ago to not bother Charisian ships.

PeterZ wrote:The Raven Lords and Trellheim can join the Empire whenever they wish. Charisian wealth either lures those lordlings in or it won't. Regardless, they will Leave Charis alone as long as they are left alone. Making that offer and the terms of incorporation into the Empire known wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

Do the same for any mainland realm. After this initial phase of the war, I am sure there will be interest. Sodar and Greentree Island might well be among them.

I see the imperium opening trade consulates on every island, that has a human settlement. That consulate will offer great loans and encourage development of the islands. It will also invest in the infrastructure and industry of the region. giving thm the opportunityt to grow. so spreading charisian influence. the rulers will enevtually join to get the full benefits of being in the empire.

Yeah, I see those cousulates too. They'll be located in the middle of naval bases protecting coaling stations. I can see trying to spread those bases out every 5 thousand miles. The goal is provide enough coaling stations that no point along the Charisian shipping lanes will be more than 3-4 thousand miles from a station. That might be too difficult to achieve initially, but ultimately something close to that will possible.

SYED wrote:I see the imperium opening trade consulates on every island, that has a human settlement. That consulate will offer great loans and encourage development of the islands. It will also invest in the infrastructure and industry of the region. giving thm the opportunityt to grow. so spreading charisian influence. the rulers will enevtually join to get the full benefits of being in the empire.

Hi PeterZ,

Historically, RN etc coaling stations were much closer than 3-4,000 miles apart.

So I'd expect 1-2,000 to be more likely once steam becomes common and hardly than much more expensive given how little it'll take to establish one on an empty island given the wealth the empire will have by then.

L

PeterZ wrote:Yeah, I see those cousulates too. They'll be located in the middle of naval bases protecting coaling stations. I can see trying to spread those bases out every 5 thousand miles. The goal is provide enough coaling stations that no point along the Charisian shipping lanes will be more than 3-4 thousand miles from a station. That might be too difficult to achieve initially, but ultimately something close to that will possible.

SYED wrote:I see the imperium opening trade consulates on every island, that has a human settlement. That consulate will offer great loans and encourage development of the islands. It will also invest in the infrastructure and industry of the region. giving thm the opportunityt to grow. so spreading charisian influence. the rulers will enevtually join to get the full benefits of being in the empire.

That would be better eventually for many reasons, including spreading the Silverlode wealth more widely. Those bases might be better placed on islands with an existing population. There are many islands in the Gulf of Dohlar to set up bases. I personally think establishing a serious Pearl Harbor/Singapore sized base in Dragon Island is essential. One on Trove Island and another naval base at Dairnyth seems wise.

The remaining coaling stations on Green Tree, Samson's Land, Trellheim and at least one amongst the Raven Lords. There will be plenty of other options along the trade routes.

lyonheart wrote:Hi PeterZ,

Historically, RN etc coaling stations were much closer than 3-4,000 miles apart.

So I'd expect 1-2,000 to be more likely once steam becomes common and hardly than much more expensive given how little it'll take to establish one on an empty island given the wealth the empire will have by then.

L