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An Actress to play Honor Harrington

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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by Commodore Oakius   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:22 am

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Ok, if he was 10-20 years younger, Harrison Ford for Whitehaven.
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by Michael Everett   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:46 pm

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Commodore Oakius wrote:Ok, if he was 10-20 years younger, Harrison Ford for Whitehaven.

As long as he doesn't break his other ankle...
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:45 pm

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Michael Everett wrote:
Commodore Oakius wrote:Ok, if he was 10-20 years younger, Harrison Ford for Whitehaven.

As long as he doesn't break his other ankle...


Oh, please. If Harrison Ford were twenty years younger, I'd have cast him as Lester Tourville in a heartbeat.
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by Commodore Oakius   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:14 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
Oh, please. If Harrison Ford were twenty years younger, I'd have cast him as Lester Tourville in a heartbeat.

Actually I thought Tom Selleck would be a great Lester, if we are going 20 years younger
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:19 pm

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Commodore Oakius wrote:
roseandheather wrote:
Oh, please. If Harrison Ford were twenty years younger, I'd have cast him as Lester Tourville in a heartbeat.

Actually I thought Tom Selleck would be a great Lester, if we are going 20 years younger


...well now I will never be able to see anyone else as Lester Tourville until they get around to casting the damn role.
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by Commodore Oakius   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:31 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
...well now I will never be able to see anyone else as Lester Tourville until they get around to casting the damn role.

Who Selleck or Ford?

TO drag this whole thing back to Honor, and she may have been suggested, has anyone suggested Denise Richards, circa James Bond era, for Honor?
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:45 pm

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Commodore Oakius wrote:
roseandheather wrote:
...well now I will never be able to see anyone else as Lester Tourville until they get around to casting the damn role.

Who Selleck or Ford?

TO drag this whole thing back to Honor, and she may have been suggested, has anyone suggested Denise Richards, circa James Bond era, for Honor?


Selleck. I mean, if you looked up "Lester Tourville" in the dictionary, a picture of Tom Selleck circa 1990 would be pasted right there.

About Honor, I've been firm from the beginning that she must be played by a non-white actress. Right now my top pick is Moon Bloodgood (though she might be about ten years too old); another name I keep coming back to is Olivia Munn. (Don't laugh. Munn has some serious acting chops.) Having a canonically half-Asian character played by a white actress has some very, very unfortunate implications.
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by BrightSoul   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:10 pm

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About the only guy I can see Harrison ford as at his current age is Jonas Adcock as the head of Weapons Development. :twisted:

On the race of Honor, I'm not sold on forcing the selection based on Race. It is far more important that she have the gravitas to play the role than that she has the eye-shape and coloring to play it.

The reason I think Stana could come close to honor both in chops and in her look is the angular face. Her face is planes and angles and while she is very attractive she could very well pull it off given the right makeup color pallet and hairstyle to create the understated and unaware striking looks of our hero. Think how hollywood made over Charlize Theron for Monster, That was scary. If they could make her look like that then there is no reason Stana couldn't play the role with some makeup, especially if DW doesn't object to casting her. IIRC DW has stated that he's more worried that the actor can play the part than getting the race right.
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:22 pm

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BrightSoul wrote:About the only guy I can see Harrison ford as at his current age is Jonas Adcock as the head of Weapons Development. :twisted:

On the race of Honor, I'm not sold on forcing the selection based on Race. It is far more important that she have the gravitas to play the role than that she has the eye-shape and coloring to play it.

The reason I think Stana could come close to honor both in chops and in her look is the angular face. Her face is planes and angles and while she is very attractive she could very well pull it off given the right makeup color pallet and hairstyle to create the understated and unaware striking looks of our hero. Think how hollywood made over Charlize Theron for Monster, That was scary. If they could make her look like that then there is no reason Stana couldn't play the role with some makeup, especially if DW doesn't object to casting her. IIRC DW has stated that he's more worried that the actor can play the part than getting the race right.


I understand the importance of someone who can pull off the role - for God's sake, I was nearly a professional actress myself - but casting a white actress as Honor has, frankly, rather racist implications. It's tied up in Hollywood's long, long history of having white actors play non-white characters, and it's very, very ugly.

Yeah, I just called casting a white actor as Honor 'racist'. And I'll stand by that statement. Would I care if a Filipina actress got cast as Honor? No. Because that isn't erasing minority representation. Casting Honor as white does.

By the way, that "put her in some makeup" suggestion? It's called yellowface, and it's not okay.
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Re: An Actress to play Honor Harrington
Post by yannosh   » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:28 pm

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Rose, I am sorry to say, but you are being reverse racist.

Honor has been repeatedly stated to have nothing in common with Alison BUT the eyes.

That in no for or means makes her a non-caucasian.

I'm not saying Honor should be white. I am saying that excluding white actresses over that reason is JUST as racist as excluding non-caucasians from the roll.

First requirement MUST be ability to pull it off. Beyond that I don't care if they have a inuit transexual for the role. It is all window dressing.

Now, casting all Caucasian cast would be a racist move. But forcing people who have so far been rather more open to working with the fanbase and the author than anyone familiar with Hollywood could hope to expect to thin out the talent pool because most of Hollywood studios mismanage the matter of race of heroes and especially heroines would be plain wrong.
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