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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by crewdude48   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:12 am

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Yow wrote:from SftS,
“She nodded her thanks and stepped through the waiting portal, with Archer on her heels.
"Admiral Gold Peak!"
Cortez was a smallish man who wore the uniform of an admiral of the green.”

Ok. So I've been schooled on the differences between admirals of the green or red (by the way, thanks everyone) but I don't remember anything that really describes their uniforms other than the cut and salads. According to this passage something about their uniform stands out to differentiate their seniority. So does anyone know what differences are in their uniforms?


I don't have my books handy, but I seem to recall that, between the stripes on the sleeves, there were smaller stripes of either green or red.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Yow   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:15 am

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Yow wrote:from SftS,
“She nodded her thanks and stepped through the waiting portal, with Archer on her heels.
"Admiral Gold Peak!"
Cortez was a smallish man who wore the uniform of an admiral of the green.”

Ok. So I've been schooled on the differences between admirals of the green or red (by the way, thanks everyone) but I don't remember anything that really describes their uniforms other than the cut and salads. According to this passage something about their uniform stands out to differentiate their seniority. So does anyone know what differences are in their uniforms?


crewdude48 wrote:I don't have my books handy, but I seem to recall that, between the stripes on the sleeves, there were smaller stripes of either green or red.

Is that with the stripes with the mentioned in dispatches and wound stripes or with the rings on the cuff?

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by crewdude48   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:03 am

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Yow wrote:Is that with the stripes with the mentioned in dispatches and wound stripes or with the rings on the cuff?


Sorry, right. With the rank rings on the cuff.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:00 pm

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Treecat empathic range is limted to a few kilometers. Does this mean that if half a bonded pair is beyond that range when one dies, spares the resulting catatonic state of the other? Or merely delayed until a later date? Textev?

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Jonathan_S   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:48 pm

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cthia wrote:Treecat empathic range is limted to a few kilometers. Does this mean that if half a bonded pair is beyond that range when one dies, spares the resulting catatonic state of the other? Or merely delayed until a later date? Textev?

Can't recall any text-ev one way or the other. But I'd suspect that being out of range would prevent the immediate shock of feeling the death; but I suspect really prolonged separation to have it's own negative impacts on the bonded treecat. (And that's before the possibility that they learn 2nd hand about their partner's death)

And on the gripping hand if there partner was with other treecats when they died they might get a relayed memory of the death. That's probably somewhere in the middle in terms of impact; they'd feel their partner die, but via a treecat that didn't have the pair bond - so way less impact.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:55 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:
cthia wrote:Treecat empathic range is limted to a few kilometers. Does this mean that if half a bonded pair is beyond that range when one dies, spares the resulting catatonic state of the other? Or merely delayed until a later date? Textev?

Can't recall any text-ev one way or the other. But I'd suspect that being out of range would prevent the immediate shock of feeling the death; but I suspect really prolonged separation to have it's own negative impacts on the bonded treecat. (And that's before the possibility that they learn 2nd hand about their partner's death)

And on the gripping hand if there partner was with other treecats when they died they might get a relayed memory of the death. That's probably somewhere in the middle in terms of impact; they'd feel their partner die, but via a treecat that didn't have the pair bond - so way less impact.

Thanks for the input Johnathan. To be honest, my niece has brought this up with me and I haven't a clue. Another question is whether all treecats share the same empathic range limit or do memory singers enjoy an enhanced range, having a more powerful mind glow?

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Direwolf18   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:29 pm

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Thats... Interesting about the treecats. For all we know the psychic bond would be one of those faster then light forces that would be instantly felt. Kind of like how the FTL stuff uses gravity.

Certain Treecats can communicate at further ranges then others, Memory Singers and bonded pairs being able to "speak" at far greater distances. I imagine even if they are out of "shouting" distance they could know if a companion died. I think there is some reference to this in the Treecat kidnapping episode in A Beautiful Friendship. I would need to go re-read it at some point.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:52 pm

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Direwolf18 wrote:Thats... Interesting about the treecats. For all we know the psychic bond would be one of those faster then light forces that would be instantly felt. Kind of like how the FTL stuff uses gravity.

Certain Treecats can communicate at further ranges then others, Memory Singers and bonded pairs being able to "speak" at far greater distances. I imagine even if they are out of "shouting" distance they could know if a companion died. I think there is some reference to this in the Treecat kidnapping episode in A Beautiful Friendship. I would need to go re-read it at some point.

Interesting thoughts on it.

We have to be careful here, my niece's brain works like a computer. First, she posits that memory singer to memory singer could represent the farthest possible connection. Secondly, if it indeed works FTL then there's the obvious military application if the ability can be controlled. I argued that even if so it would probably be limited what could actually be sent. She countered that it would simply mimic the limitation of the RMN's initial FTL. She conceived of a possible use to circumvent the need of the KISS principle when attacking in several systems simultaneously. A treecat could send an emotion to kick it off. If it worked FTL (instantly) and if it could be controlled at great distances.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by KNick   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:29 pm

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cthia wrote:Interesting thoughts on it.

We have to be careful here, my niece's brain works like a computer. First, she posits that memory singer to memory singer could represent the farthest possible connection. Secondly, if it indeed works FTL then there's the obvious military application if the ability can be controlled. I argued that even if so it would probably be limited what could actually be sent. She countered that it would simply mimic the limitation of the RMN's initial FTL. She conceived of a possible use to circumvent the need of the KISS principle when attacking in several systems simultaneously. A treecat could send an emotion to kick it off. If it worked FTL (instantly) and if it could be controlled at great distances.


Tell your niece sorry. The furthest we have evidence for is confined to planetary distances. The Yawata Strike that destroyed Black Rock Clan is the only event that covered the whole planet, and that took the death of the entire clan. Every other communication that I can remember off hand would be measured in tens of kilometers, at best.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:56 pm

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KNick wrote:
cthia wrote:Interesting thoughts on it.

We have to be careful here, my niece's brain works like a computer. First, she posits that memory singer to memory singer could represent the farthest possible connection. Secondly, if it indeed works FTL then there's the obvious military application if the ability can be controlled. I argued that even if so it would probably be limited what could actually be sent. She countered that it would simply mimic the limitation of the RMN's initial FTL. She conceived of a possible use to circumvent the need of the KISS principle when attacking in several systems simultaneously. A treecat could send an emotion to kick it off. If it worked FTL (instantly) and if it could be controlled at great distances.


Tell your niece sorry. The furthest we have evidence for is confined to planetary distances. The Yawata Strike that destroyed Black Rock Clan is the only event that covered the whole planet, and that took the death of the entire clan. Every other communication that I can remember off hand would be measured in tens of kilometers, at best.


Also remember, when Dr. Arif screened Honor in Mission of Honor (or was it ART?), she got the message through Sorrow Singer from "the other side of Sphinx" and they still had to relay from clan to clan to pass the message on. It looks like even memory singers can only "broadcast" so far - every treecat on-planet felt Black Rock Clan die, but that was a massively traumatic event in which an entire clan was killed very suddenly.
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