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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:39 pm

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I remember several incidences when Honor was listening to someone talk, yet preoccupied. She would decide to listen half heartedly with the intention to replay the entire conversation later. Is there textev stating what that ability is? I seem to remember something. I don't think textev stated that she had a photographic, or eidetic memory or something similar. Can anyone tac-witch-it?

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Ensign Re-read   » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:31 pm

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JohnRoth wrote:There's apparently a limit as to how close a planet could be to a double star system and remain dynamically stable. I have no idea what it is, or whether it's far enough away to rule out habitable planets. Maybe one of the actual astronomers on the forum could weigh in on the question?


Play around with Celestia.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:29 am

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Ensign Re-read wrote:
JohnRoth wrote:There's apparently a limit as to how close a planet could be to a double star system and remain dynamically stable. I have no idea what it is, or whether it's far enough away to rule out habitable planets. Maybe one of the actual astronomers on the forum could weigh in on the question?


Play around with Celestia.

Will Celestia tell you whether an orbit is stable on a timescale of hundreds of millions or billions of orbits? That would be pretty great, but it seems unlikely.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Brigade XO   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:36 am

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cthia wrote:
Amaroq wrote:Anyone else ever wondered what living on a planet in a binary system would be like? Manticore is a binary system but you never hear much mentioned about double suns and how that would affect daily life.

There are 10 types of people that understand binary.
Those that do, and those that don't.


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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:52 pm

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SWM wrote:
JohnRoth wrote:There's apparently a limit as to how close a planet could be to a double star system and remain dynamically stable. I have no idea what it is, or whether it's far enough away to rule out habitable planets. Maybe one of the actual astronomers on the forum could weigh in on the question?

It depends on how bright the stars are and how far apart they are. The brightness will determine how far the habitable zone is from the stars. Off the top of my head, the instability produced by a close binary pair of stars is a third or fourth order effect (I'd have to look it up). Given binary star, with components A and B, there will be relatively stable orbits around A, around B, and around the center of mass of A plus B. (The fanciful figure 8 orbit looping between both is unstable, I believe.) If the stars are far enough apart, the habitable zone of A will encompass at least some of the stable orbits; similarly the habitable zone of B could encompass stable orbits if they are far enough apart. And if the stars are close enough and/or bright enough, the habitable zone will include at least some of the stable orbits around their center of mass. Contact binaries, in particular, could easily have stable orbits in the habitable zone. (Contact binaries are so close that the star surfaces are close enough to exchange mass.)


So I'm guessing that means the 6-sun system in Asimov's Nightfall would be highly unlikely to have a planet that harbored intelligent life? Lol.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:56 pm

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cthia wrote:I remember several incidences when Honor was listening to someone talk, yet preoccupied. She would decide to listen half heartedly with the intention to replay the entire conversation later. Is there textev stating what that ability is? I seem to remember something. I don't think textev stated that she had a photographic, or eidetic memory or something similar. Can anyone tac-witch-it?


I think this is the relevant quote from HAE:

She floated in zero-gee, and the surface of her brain listened attentively to everything Schubert said. She knew she'd be able to replay the entire conversation verbatim later, but for now her inner thoughts were busy with what she'd already learned about Project Trojan Horse.


It does seem like a unique ability. I know I couldn't do it without actually listening to the conversation. Maybe it's some sort of Meyerdahl byproduct?
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:59 pm

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Considering Honor's close ties with Beowulf does anyone think that it would have been reasonable for Beowulf to potentially object to Honor's judicial murder on what was obviously trumped up charges? I would expect Jacques to be far more upset at the thought of his niece being murdered in such a manner on live television. Just a thought.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:08 pm

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Amaroq wrote:Considering Honor's close ties with Beowulf does anyone think that it would have been reasonable for Beowulf to potentially object to Honor's judicial murder on what was obviously trumped up charges? I would expect Jacques to be far more upset at the thought of his niece being murdered in such a manner on live television. Just a thought.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Yow   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:54 pm

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from SftS,
“She nodded her thanks and stepped through the waiting portal, with Archer on her heels.
"Admiral Gold Peak!"
Cortez was a smallish man who wore the uniform of an admiral of the green.”

Ok. So I've been schooled on the differences between admirals of the green or red (by the way, thanks everyone) but I don't remember anything that really describes their uniforms other than the cut and salads. According to this passage something about their uniform stands out to differentiate their seniority. So does anyone know what differences are in their uniforms?

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:03 pm

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SWM wrote:
Amaroq wrote:Considering Honor's close ties with Beowulf does anyone think that it would have been reasonable for Beowulf to potentially object to Honor's judicial murder on what was obviously trumped up charges? I would expect Jacques to be far more upset at the thought of his niece being murdered in such a manner on live television. Just a thought.

See: http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/en ... gton/334/1


Interesting. I hadn't read that Pearl before. I wish he had mentioned the whole POW thing in his response. I completely understand the point he was trying to make in all of the examples he gave. It seems that maybe some family influence in that one case (i.e. to save someone from execution) might be appropriate?
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