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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by SYED   » Sun May 25, 2014 12:51 am

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use books on the tales of seijin, about their powers, about howthey save people, hunt the evil. the inquisition can take the books on heroes with out trouble, and they could help inspire people.
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by DrakBibliophile   » Sun May 25, 2014 8:30 am

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Tales of the seijin are already common on Safehold and existed long before Merlin's waking.

How will you idea be different than what was happening prior to Merlin's waking?

SYED wrote:use books on the tales of seijin, about their powers, about howthey save people, hunt the evil. the inquisition can take the books on heroes with out trouble, and they could help inspire people.
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by SYED   » Thu May 29, 2014 6:43 am

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These seijin would with out ever mentioning the words, carry out their adventures TRUE to the tennants of reformers and the church of charis.
The warrior would set out help the innocent, and bring the guilty to justice.
they would be less fairy tales, more Scarlett pimpernel and robin hood. Going against the rules to fight the evils nf corrupt. My idea is that the seigin in the story was once an inquisitor or temple guard who was betrayed and left for dead by his corrupt brethren. He survives by the graceof the angels and sent to right the wrongs.

What if they wrote an animal farm version of current event? It seems like a Childs story but it can be seen asa commetory on the chuch.
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by Kakai   » Thu May 29, 2014 10:38 am

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SYED wrote:
What if they wrote an animal farm version of current event? It seems like a Childs story but it can be seen asa commetory on the chuch.


Something à la Orwell's Animal Farm? I can actually imagine Napoleon as parody of Clyntahn :lol:

How abouth photography? It's actually pure chemistry and IIRC not beyond capability of Royal College. Think about the educational and propaganda values!
From that the cinematograph or similar device could be introduced, although for that you need better camera tapes than first photo cameras had.

Or maybe kinetoscope instead of cinematograph? It's just set of photos moved by turning a crank (so Muscle Power). It would probably look "safer" to Safeholdians than cinematograph projection. Again, not only you could make comedies and parodies (Chaplin's Dictator springs to my mind), but you could also play some sort of war chronicles.
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by lyonheart   » Thu May 29, 2014 10:39 pm

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Hi Kakai,

Photography requires some knowledge of chemistry being organised and understood which even Sahndrah Lywys didn't until she went to Nimue's Cave.

So while it will be awhile, given RFC's awareness of these advantages we may see some happening in HFQ.

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Kakai wrote:
SYED wrote:
What if they wrote an animal farm version of current event? It seems like a Childs story but it can be seen asa commetory on the chuch.


Something à la Orwell's Animal Farm? I can actually imagine Napoleon as parody of Clyntahn :lol:

How abouth photography? It's actually pure chemistry and IIRC not beyond capability of Royal College. Think about the educational and propaganda values!
From that the cinematograph or similar device could be introduced, although for that you need better camera tapes than first photo cameras had.

Or maybe kinetoscope instead of cinematograph? It's just set of photos moved by turning a crank (so Muscle Power). It would probably look "safer" to Safeholdians than cinematograph projection. Again, not only you could make comedies and parodies (Chaplin's Dictator springs to my mind), but you could also play some sort of war chronicles.
Any snippet or post from RFC is good if not great!
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by Arol   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:15 pm

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A bit early for this one maybe.
Babbage Engine.A mechanical computer designed around 1850.
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by saber964   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:32 pm

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Arol wrote:A bit early for this one maybe.
Babbage Engine.A mechanical computer designed around 1850.


How about the mecanical adding machine also
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by n7axw   » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:24 pm

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saber964 wrote:
Arol wrote:A bit early for this one maybe.
Babbage Engine.A mechanical computer designed around 1850.


How about the mecanical adding machine also


They already have the abacus, courtesy of Merlin
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by Tenshinai   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:56 pm

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Arol wrote:A bit early for this one maybe.
Babbage Engine.A mechanical computer designed around 1850.


Not early at all. Babbage was the first to "take the next step", he was not the first to experiment with computing machines, and if you already have some of the knowledge needed, or merely the knowledge that it can be done and just a hint of how, it´s perfectly doable with a 12th century technology level.
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Re: Non-weapons of war, weapons of war
Post by SYED   » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:54 pm

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Why not make more seijin tales, butt real life one, send them on amazing adventures?
Imagine if the seigin went out and stole the crown jewels of the reigning mainland nations. Took treasure from the church estates. had their firces chases them over league and leagues and never catch them. a seihin, jewel thief of the world, who stole the gems of the world to donates to charities and hospitals in the imperium. i wonder if a church that anything hand in as charity goes to charity no matter its origin. or an exact copy of the crown could be delivered to ever head o noble family, but it turns out every single one is fake, and all the orphans have been given fakes as well.
poison some nobles not with death, but extraordinarily powerful laxatives and purgatories. paint on national monuments and statues.
do an ocean eleven style robbery of church back casinoes.
act out daring prison break outs.
rob inquisitor offices and release their papers, look what was discovered when they spread the records in that little kingdom inquisitor rooms.
the great thing about seigin, that anything out of the ordinary would simply be explained by their little ire powers.
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