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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Imaginos1892   » Thu May 29, 2014 9:56 pm

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It's both because you're talking about two different inertial reference frames. It's 2 years for the travelers, and 200 years for the stay-homers. What could be simpler? :-D
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Annachie   » Fri May 30, 2014 1:31 am

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The travellers would have to conform with the general populace that 200 years had passed, even if it's only 2 for them.

Bonus is the backpay of course. :)
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Tenshinai   » Fri May 30, 2014 5:52 pm

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Imaginos1892 wrote:It's both because you're talking about two different inertial reference frames. It's 2 years for the travelers, and 200 years for the stay-homers. What could be simpler? :-D
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Well, no actually. This is where the issue of time vs perceived time pops up and shouts obscenities in your face.

To the travellers, to them it IS 2 years, but that does not mean that they have actually travelled for 2 years. We already know they have actually travelled for 200 years, as otherwise they could not have reached the destination and then return at that speed.

This is where you find the true meaning of "time is relative"(to the point of view).
Because to anyone else(and the universe at large), for example everyone seeing their ship, they have spent 200 years travelling.

So, you´re sort of right and sort of wrong.
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by MAD-4A   » Sat May 31, 2014 4:30 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:Maybe you could start by attributing a quote to the person who actually wrote it?
I did – maybe you shouldn’t repeat a quote as your own quote="Tenshinai"] Wow, lovely copout attempt there. Doesn´t work, since noone is likely to believe that those travellers are going to split in two parts and then somehow return at different times despite doing the same travelling.[/quote]No - saying “well majority rules” is the copout. If you bothered to read… I didn’t say the travelers split in two " :roll: " I said they traveled for 2 years while to “stay-at-homes” traveled through 200 years of time that’s what “time travel” is duh
Tenshinai wrote:Who said anything about "figment of the imagination"? Noone but you.
a)nonoe is not a word (lol) & b) saying that “time isn’t real” and “human perception” is saying it’s a “figment of the imagination” can’t grasp that?
Tenshinai wrote:…really ranting at…
yea I’m the one ranting " :roll: "
Tenshinai wrote:…need to be a bit luckier with your thinking.
What does "luck" have to do with "thinking".” :roll: “ hmmm...maybe thats the problem - you depend on luck for your thinking somehow?
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by MAD-4A   » Sat May 31, 2014 4:36 pm

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Annachie wrote:The travellers would have to conform with the general populace that 200 years had passed, even if it's only 2 for them.

Bonus is the backpay of course. :)

for those who stayed at home 200 years would have passed & no the rest of the would not reset their clocks to those of the space ship but the astronauts would not suddenly age 198 years when they set foot on the planet - they only traveled 2 years and are only 2 years in their future - they traveled in time.
Though the issue of back pay is an interesting one!
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Tenshinai   » Sat May 31, 2014 8:41 pm

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a)nonoe is not a word (lol) &


Of course it isn´t. But that´s not what i wrote. Maybe you should learn to read?
And then maybe learn English?

b) saying that “time isn’t real”


Something that i´ve never EVER said. Go play with your strawman somewhere else.

and “human perception” is saying it’s a “figment of the imagination” can’t grasp that?


And again you quote your own imagination. Phrases that have no connection to what i said.

Just how lame can you get?

I said they traveled for 2 years while to “stay-at-homes” traveled through 200 years of time that’s what “time travel” is duh


:lol:

What does "luck" have to do with "thinking".” :roll: “ hmmm...maybe thats the problem - you depend on luck for your thinking somehow?


Oh not me, i dont NEED it. I´m not the one creating fake quotes or fail to understand even basic stuff.
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Michael Everett   » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:43 am

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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Rod   » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:07 pm

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MAD-4A wrote:
Tenshinai wrote:"So the majority wins and 200 years have past."
The Universe isn't a democracy. There is no "majority rule". Both are right. It is both, 24 months and 200 years as the travelers changed both their velocity in space and time and returned to the planet at a different point in time. If time were a "figment of the imagination" and didn’t really exist then you couldn’t alter it & there wouldn’t be a “time dilation”.


So, if you are one of those who are on this 24 month trip. Do you have to do your taxs, every 12 months your time or once a month (200 year) time? How do you mail them off?
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Annachie   » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:34 pm

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You pay an accoutant to do it and claim it back. Just pray you didn't leave a light on. :)
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Re: Where is all the Anti-Matter?
Post by Tenshinai   » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:00 pm

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Annachie wrote:You pay an accoutant to do it and claim it back. Just pray you didn't leave a light on. :)




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