GA Strategy, Tactics and Targets

biochem wrote:Given the level of incompetence and arrogance exhibited to date by senior brass from the SL it would not surprise me at all to find that complete and total external access is allowed with a single password protected entry and that the password is the word "password".

SYED wrote:WHile hyper capable ships would be seen as coersion, they could simply borrow alot of pods and LAC. They could do alot of damage even before moriaty is fully installed.

phillies wrote:

biochem wrote:Given the level of incompetence and arrogance exhibited to date by senior brass from the SL it would not surprise me at all to find that complete and total external access is allowed with a single password protected entry and that the password is the word "password".

This leads to an amusing technique that might allow a DD to take out substantial numbers of SLN SDs. Find SDs in orbit around planet being resupplied. Put missiles inside boxes that look adequately like robot cargo transporters. Coast them into appropriate orbits--you may need drones to fly them, leaving the missile fusactor inactive.. Have them give the right password. That's "password1" Land them inside the cargo bays. When all the armored doors close, the warheads detonate.

Internal detonation of a 45 MT warhead in his space should really annoy the Supply CPO.

SYED wrote:From the books, it sound like the navy has a whole network of bases in the league, where a great deal of their assets and stores are located.
I always thought that if the logistics in the verge were destroyed, it would really hurt the raiding idea, but I realises the league would just provide more. The league realises it can't stop their forces, they will need to avoid battle. Imagine if honor led an alliance fleet on raids like she did on lovat. There is fear attackin would unite the league so why not simply target purly military outpost and infrastructure. Use it as an excuse to shatter all the slavery it can find.
Blame it all on attacking beowolf

Whitecold wrote:

SYED wrote:Beowolf could not alter their whole fleet to manticore standards as it would have alerted the legue, but using the lessons learned from the manties and haven, they could auugement their systems to be better than the league. who would care if they upgraded their LAC?

But why would they? Beowulf did not saw this coming, and LAC's still are not cheap if you build enough to accomplish anything, especially factoring in the R&D effort.
Beowulf did not do nothing with the lessons learned because it would have alerted the SLN, but because they were unwilling to let their military budget explode, especially when external security was still not the BSDF's task but the SLN's.

Brigade XO wrote:As outlined in the books, Beowulf and Manticore face a political and public relations problem (with the SL population) if Manticore is sitting at the system edge (other than in hyper) or deploys- even at public Beowulf open request- in system with the BSDF.

That sets of the possibility that BF can smash their way in and "save" Beowulf from the nefarious macinations and strong-arm tactics of the dastardly Manties even if it means using 400 BF SDs to destroy the BSDF to do it. The Mandarins certainly see it this way with enough (probably most) of the senior officers of the SLN to set this plan in motion. The Mandarins are or have (in their own minds) painted themselves into a bad corner and at this point none of their political careers are going to last if Beowulf withdraws from the SL since they are sure (probably correctly) the Beowulf leaving will be the first slip of an avalanche and the SL "government" will effectivly be gutted along with the League itself.

Unless sanity breaks out in the powers controling the SL government, the only thing Beowulf and Manticore can do is give Beowulf as much mussle and defence capability as possible without having the Manticore fleet sitting there in the system. This is working to further the Alignment plan as Beowulf (and the League) are both screwed if the SLN does show up to either "insure free elections" or overturn the "obviously flawed and phoney results of the plebiscite forced under direct military threat by the Manties".

The idea being bumped around that it would also be a "good idea" to have one or more missile hit Beowulf at some signifcant fraction of C in the middle of any engagement do more than only cause massive distruction and loss of life on Beowulf. I would suspect that the Alignment will try to arrange for "proof" that it was a SLN weapon that went in and NOT BY ACCIDENT. SL and SLN credibility goes bang along with Beowulf.

phillies wrote:

biochem wrote:Given the level of incompetence and arrogance exhibited to date by senior brass from the SL it would not surprise me at all to find that complete and total external access is allowed with a single password protected entry and that the password is the word "password".

This leads to an amusing technique that might allow a DD to take out substantial numbers of SLN SDs. Find SDs in orbit around planet being resupplied. Put missiles inside boxes that look adequately like robot cargo transporters. Coast them into appropriate orbits--you may need drones to fly them, leaving the missile fusactor inactive.. Have them give the right password. That's "password1" Land them inside the cargo bays. When all the armored doors close, the warheads detonate.

Internal detonation of a 45 MT warhead in his space should really annoy the Supply CPO.

SYED wrote:the destruction of the ships is not a military goal, but a publicity and economic goals. the ships would likely be stored in a shipyard, where there is major infrastructure and industry. Also, the league is attempting to keep control of the situation. if all known space was shown that the alliance can come in and wreak stuff at will, they will demand protection. So they will be forced to supply ships to boost security.
There are very few proper fleets fir the SDS, but it is also known some of them are very advanced, more so than the league. Would thoses systems with a proper fleet be likely to have the most advanced fleets available.
If they target the league fleet assest nearest those systems with a proper military, it would potentially allow for such systems to justify sending forces to secure the region, so make itt likely that they weould want to let the league fall as they could snap up riches.