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Whitecold wrote:The system is called Lorelei, a decoy drone which accurately mimics the signature of a superdreadnought.

lyonheart wrote:What were all the previous decoys from OBS onward doing, if not playing with the ship's gravitic signature etc, given that's what the missile's are targeting?

A Rising Thunder
Chapter 16
wrote:Lorelei didn’t need to be in close proximity to anyone, and its emitters were much more powerful than Halo’s. The false targets Lorelei generated were still far weaker than those of genuine superdreadnoughts, but they could be interposed between those superdreadnoughts and the threat. More, they could be physically separated from the ships they were trying to protect … and the signatures they generated had been artfully camouflaged. Yes, they were weaker and dimmer than a true starship might have produced, but what they looked like was an all-up starship using its own EW systems to make its signature as weak and dim as possible.

Weird Harold wrote:

lyonheart wrote:What were all the previous decoys from OBS onward doing, if not playing with the ship's gravitic signature etc, given that's what the missile's are targeting?

From the description of Lorelei's first use against Adm Filareta, previous decoys either didn't have the energy budget to mimic SDs or they were tethered and drew power from the mother ship.

A Rising Thunder
Chapter 16
wrote:Lorelei didn’t need to be in close proximity to anyone, and its emitters were much more powerful than Halo’s. The false targets Lorelei generated were still far weaker than those of genuine superdreadnoughts, but they could be interposed between those superdreadnoughts and the threat. More, they could be physically separated from the ships they were trying to protect … and the signatures they generated had been artfully camouflaged. Yes, they were weaker and dimmer than a true starship might have produced, but what they looked like was an all-up starship using its own EW systems to make its signature as weak and dim as possible.

lyonheart wrote:Hi WhiteCold,

What were all the previous decoys from OBS onward doing, if not playing with the ship's gravitic signature etc, given that's what the missile's are targeting?

Just curious.

L

Whitecold wrote:The system is called Lorelei, a decoy drone which accurately mimics the signature of a superdreadnought.

Weird Harold wrote:

lyonheart wrote:What were all the previous decoys from OBS onward doing, if not playing with the ship's gravitic signature etc, given that's what the missile's are targeting?

From the description of Lorelei's first use against Adm Filareta, previous decoys either didn't have the energy budget to mimic SDs or they were tethered and drew power from the mother ship.

Ashes of Victory wrote:BatDiv 62's internal launchers were busy firing something besides shipkillers. They were firing more electronic warfare drones that took station on the formation and began to thresh the Peeps' targeting systems with jamming, and others that took on the appearance of more superdreadnoughts, more battlecruisers, more heavy cruisers, all beckoning to the Peep's sensors.

Such decoys had always been available, but only in limited numbers. The power required to sustain a convincing false sensor image of a warship in engagement range was so high that a drone required direct power transmission from the ship it was protecting. That meant standard practice had always been to deploy decoys only on tractors and in low numbers. But the same technology which had provided the power plants for the RMN's FTL recon drones had been brought to bear on the decoy problem by the R&D types responsible for Project Ghost Rider, and the result—one of the results—was a completely independent unit with an endurance of up to twenty minutes from internal power alone, depending on the strength of the sensor image it had to duplicate. And one that could be fired from one of the new capital missile tubes, at that. Now BatDiv 62's internal launchers went to rapid fire, spewing them out, multiplying the Peeps' targets catastrophically with each broadside.

Jonathan_S wrote:**quote="Weird Harold"**[quote="lyonheart"]What were all the previous decoys from OBS onward doing, if not playing with the ship's gravitic signature etc, given that's what the missile's are targeting?**/quote**

From the description of Lorelei's first use against Adm Filareta, previous decoys either didn't have the energy budget to mimic SDs or they were tethered and drew power from the mother ship.

Ashes of Victory wrote:BatDiv 62's internal launchers were busy firing something besides shipkillers. They were firing more electronic warfare drones that took station on the formation and began to thresh the Peeps' targeting systems with jamming, and others that took on the appearance of more superdreadnoughts, more battlecruisers, more heavy cruisers, all beckoning to the Peep's sensors.

Such decoys had always been available, but only in limited numbers. The power required to sustain a convincing false sensor image of a warship in engagement range was so high that a drone required direct power transmission from the ship it was protecting. That meant standard practice had always been to deploy decoys only on tractors and in low numbers. But the same technology which had provided the power plants for the RMN's FTL recon drones had been brought to bear on the decoy problem by the R&D types responsible for Project Ghost Rider, and the result—one of the results—was a completely independent unit with an endurance of up to twenty minutes from internal power alone, depending on the strength of the sensor image it had to duplicate. And one that could be fired from one of the new capital missile tubes, at that. Now BatDiv 62's internal launchers went to rapid fire, spewing them out, multiplying the Peeps' targets catastrophically with each broadside.

Jonathan_S wrote:I assume that Lorelei is a significantly enhanced version of those Buttercup-era Ghost Rider free flying decoys.

Maybe it's got much longer endurance, significantly higher power budgets, is much more survivable (to decoy multiple waves), or other improvements.

lyonheart wrote:Hi Jonathan_S,

Thank you for the example.

I think the energy budget for BC decoys to simulate SD engines back around '05-'06 is pretty impressive myself.

But doesn't that make the free flying decoy types over 15 years old?

L