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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Sun May 18, 2014 6:19 pm

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I still want that novel about the Grayson Civil War.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Roguevictory   » Sun May 18, 2014 7:07 pm

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roseandheather wrote:I still want that novel about the Grayson Civil War.


That might be fun, so would one about the First Grayson-Masadan War. It was only about 3o years before The Honor of the Queen, which included the opening battles of the Second Grayson-Masadan War and with a movie coming out based HOQ I think the near future would be the perfect time for a novel on the first war.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Mon May 19, 2014 6:59 am

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cthia wrote:Would someone help me. I've been trying to find reference of the location(s) of planetary population on Grayson. Am I correct in that it is the Western Hemisphere? And is that exclusive? And if so, with Skydomes, will that be changing?

I'm afraid I can't recall anything about the planetary distribution of population centers.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon May 19, 2014 9:08 am

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SWM wrote:
cthia wrote:Would someone help me. I've been trying to find reference of the location(s) of planetary population on Grayson. Am I correct in that it is the Western Hemisphere? And is that exclusive? And if so, with Skydomes, will that be changing?

I'm afraid I can't recall anything about the planetary distribution of population centers.

I thought there was something but all I could find was a mention that
1) The Steading of Harrington was established on Grayson's "southernmost continent". (elsewhere we're told the "southernmost continent" is "Goshen")
2) Mueller's Steading was on the "continent of Idaho", which contained "God's Tears, the most beautiful chain of lakes [on that continent]"
3) Austin City and the Protector's Palace are on "the northern continent of New Covenant"; as are "several good-sized cities" (probably including Austin City)
4) Mr. Baird's fake 'grassroots' group used to funnel money to Mueller was supposedly "strongest in the south and the west" (compared to New Covenant)

HoS tells us that "no more than half of the entire planetary surface has actually been developed or organized into official steadings at this time. Harrington Steading, organized in 1906, is the youngest, but there remains much room for additional steadings"


All told what I dug up doesn't give the impression that they're concentrated in any one hemisphere, but it also certainly doesn't rule it out.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Mon May 19, 2014 10:39 am

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SWM wrote:
cthia wrote:Would someone help me. I've been trying to find reference of the location(s) of planetary population on Grayson. Am I correct in that it is the Western Hemisphere? And is that exclusive? And if so, with Skydomes, will that be changing?

I'm afraid I can't recall anything about the planetary distribution of population centers.

Jonathan_S wrote:I thought there was something but all I could find was a mention that
1) The Steading of Harrington was established on Grayson's "southernmost continent". (elsewhere we're told the "southernmost continent" is "Goshen")
2) Mueller's Steading was on the "continent of Idaho", which contained "God's Tears, the most beautiful chain of lakes [on that continent]"
3) Austin City and the Protector's Palace are on "the northern continent of New Covenant"; as are "several good-sized cities" (probably including Austin City)
4) Mr. Baird's fake 'grassroots' group used to funnel money to Mueller was supposedly "strongest in the south and the west" (compared to New Covenant)

HoS tells us that "no more than half of the entire planetary surface has actually been developed or organized into official steadings at this time. Harrington Steading, organized in 1906, is the youngest, but there remains much room for additional steadings"


All told what I dug up doesn't give the impression that they're concentrated in any one hemisphere, but it also certainly doesn't rule it out.


Thanks for all of the hard work Johnathan. I dug and dug until I was about to hit China and found nothing. It was nagging at me. I don't know why I thought I read somewhere that population was confined to just one Hemisphere. With all you dug up it seems I was wrong. Again, thanks.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Weird Harold   » Mon May 19, 2014 12:14 pm

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cthia wrote:I don't know why I thought I read somewhere that population was confined to just one Hemisphere. With all you dug up it seems I was wrong. Again, thanks.


I don't think you were wrong exactly. I seem to remember that Harrington Steading was the only Steading in that hemishere, which would imply that all the other Steadings were in the opposite hemisphere.

IIRC, it was in conjunction with the requirement that Steadholders travel from their demesne to a special session of the keys?
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon May 19, 2014 6:33 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
cthia wrote:I don't know why I thought I read somewhere that population was confined to just one Hemisphere. With all you dug up it seems I was wrong. Again, thanks.


I don't think you were wrong exactly. I seem to remember that Harrington Steading was the only Steading in that hemishere, which would imply that all the other Steadings were in the opposite hemisphere.

IIRC, it was in conjunction with the requirement that Steadholders travel from their demesne to a special session of the keys?
I found what I think you're referring to (having to take the Steadholder's official vehicle from their Steading to Austin City) in Flag in Exile; but it just talks about the 2 hour (each way) air car trip. I didn't see anything nearby about it being the only Steading on that continent.

But I easily could have missed that tidbit elsewhere. After all, except for the HoS info, the other bit I quoted in that last post were all from doing a global ebook search for "continent" and skimming through the relatively limited results for Grayson references. I'm sure there's other details that just didn't happen to be near that particular keyword.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Mon May 19, 2014 6:55 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:
Weird Harold wrote:
I don't think you were wrong exactly. I seem to remember that Harrington Steading was the only Steading in that hemishere, which would imply that all the other Steadings were in the opposite hemisphere.

IIRC, it was in conjunction with the requirement that Steadholders travel from their demesne to a special session of the keys?
I found what I think you're referring to (having to take the Steadholder's official vehicle from their Steading to Austin City) in Flag in Exile; but it just talks about the 2 hour (each way) air car trip. I didn't see anything nearby about it being the only Steading on that continent.

But I easily could have missed that tidbit elsewhere. After all, except for the HoS info, the other bit I quoted in that last post were all from doing a global ebook search for "continent" and skimming through the relatively limited results for Grayson references. I'm sure there's other details that just didn't happen to be near that particular keyword.


Johnathan, would you mind executing that search with 'hemisphere' as the keyword instead of 'continent'? I seem to remember that specific word.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Weird Harold   » Mon May 19, 2014 7:32 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:I found what I think you're referring to (having to take the Steadholder's official vehicle from their Steading to Austin City) in Flag in Exile; but it just talks about the 2 hour (each way) air car trip. I didn't see anything nearby about it being the only Steading on that continent.


That's the right general area, I think. What I remember is a reference to Harrington Steading being significantly further from Austin City than any other Steading.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon May 19, 2014 7:39 pm

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cthia wrote:Johnathan, would you mind executing that search with 'hemisphere' as the keyword instead of 'continent'? I seem to remember that specific word.
Sure, easy enough (and fortunately not too many hits to sort through). I found 2 hits for hemisphere that relate to Grayson.

The most interesting (and one that might possibly have gotten the idea stuck in your head) was this from Field of Dishonor

"It was also, she noticed in surprise, badged in gold with the coat of arms she'd selected as Steadholder Harrington: side-by-side representations of the western hemispheres of Sphinx and Grayson, joined by the stylized key that was the patriarch's sigil of a steadholder, under a vac helmet crest. The helmet looked very little like modern equipment, but it was the symbol which had denoted naval service for almost two thousand T-years."

The other was from Ashes of Victory and talked about how the undomed parts of Austin City were snow covered as "it was winter in Grayson's northern hemisphere"

The other twenty odd hits were for other planets, references to Earth's Western Hemisphere (as "in most colonists came from"), or uses related to just the geographic shape.
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