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Prince Daivyn's age
Post by ManyMyths   » Mon May 05, 2014 4:36 am

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Has anyone else noticed that the Prince has turned 11 twice? First in Aug in Delferahk just before Merlin delivered the wyverns and then again on Destiny just before arriving in Corisande. So - how old is he actually?
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Re: Prince Daivin's age
Post by lyonheart   » Mon May 05, 2014 7:43 am

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Hello ManyMyths!

Welcome to the forums, enjoy your favorite CG beverage on the forum! ;)

Kudos for spotting this!

RFC isn't happy about such human errors, but this is more egregious than most.

OTOH, we haven't noticed it for 2&1/2 month's since it came out! :o :oops:

Boy do we look dumb too! :D

It looks like we're going to need your sharp eyes here!

Kudos again.

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ManyMyths wrote:Has anyone else noticed that the Prince has turned 11 twice? First in Aug in Delferahk just before Merlin delivered the wyverns and then again on Destiny just before arriving in Corisande. So - how old is he actually?
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Re: Prince Daivin's age
Post by thanatos   » Mon May 05, 2014 9:04 am

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Certainly an error - I think they meant to say 12 not 11 in Like a Mighty Army. However, it could also be explained by their desire to belated celebrate the birthday that they missed.
lyonheart wrote:Hello ManyMyths!

Welcome to the forums, enjoy your favorite CG beverage on the forum! ;)

Kudos for spotting this!

RFC isn't happy about such human errors, but this is more egregious than most.

OTOH, we haven't noticed it for 2&1/2 month's since it came out! :o :oops:

Boy do we look dumb too! :D

It looks like we're going to need your sharp eyes here!

Kudos again.

L


ManyMyths wrote:Has anyone else noticed that the Prince has turned 11 twice? First in Aug in Delferahk just before Merlin delivered the wyverns and then again on Destiny just before arriving in Corisande. So - how old is he actually?
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Re: Prince Daivin's age
Post by ManyMyths   » Mon May 05, 2014 10:53 am

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Well, here's where it gets tricky. In Aug 895, both Queen Hailyn and Lord Lakeland refer to Daivyn turning 11 in HFAF, p 1021 & 1025 (Nook Edition). Then, in March 896 while Daivyn's fishing, p36 text states he's 10 in MTAT. Then in Aug 896, in LAMA, p172, coming into Corisande,he's ten days past his 11th birthday.
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Re: Prince Daivin's age
Post by phillies   » Mon May 05, 2014 11:48 pm

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ManyMyths wrote:Well, here's where it gets tricky. In Aug 895, both Queen Hailyn and Lord Lakeland refer to Daivyn turning 11 in HFAF, p 1021 & 1025 (Nook Edition). Then, in March 896 while Daivyn's fishing, p36 text states he's 10 in MTAT. Then in Aug 896, in LAMA, p172, coming into Corisande,he's ten days past his 11th birthday.


They are calculating with Langhorne's numerals, and little details like the order of the integers occasionally become obscure. Alternatively, some of these places quote the American age, and others the European.

Thus my grandfather reached the American age of 100, meaning that he was by eastern European standards in his 101st year. There are also places that reckon since a fixed point after birth, though details skip my memory. That should give you plenty of slack.
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Re: Prince Daivyn's age
Post by Randomiser   » Tue May 06, 2014 4:41 am

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Nah, it's just a continuity error that we need RFC to fix for us. In the sense of deciding what age Daivyn is now so we can move on.
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Re: Prince Daivyn's age
Post by runsforcelery   » Tue May 06, 2014 8:22 am

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Randomiser wrote:Nah, it's just a continuity error that we need RFC to fix for us. In the sense of deciding what age Daivyn is now so we can move on.


The LAMA age is correct. I'm not sure how the error occurred in the first place, though I have my suspicions, and I'm not where I can check my original manuscript for the earlier book to see whether or not it was in it. I strongly suspect that it was, however. This is the sort of discrepancy that can creep in when you have lots of characters to keep up with over extended periods. Usually, when I make an entry in the master character list for a series, it will include a notation like "36 in September 897" to keep me straight on his/her age at later (or earlier) points in his/her life, but math errors can creep in when you do the addition or subtraction to get to the current age. I imagine that's what happened here. Daivyn's age had changed since I first entered him into the list and a math error slipped in thanks to those damned Roman numerals of Langhorne's! :evil:


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Re: Prince Daivyn's age
Post by jgnfld   » Tue May 06, 2014 10:50 am

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runsforcelery wrote:
Randomiser wrote:Nah, it's just a continuity error that we need RFC to fix for us. In the sense of deciding what age Daivyn is now so we can move on.


The LAMA age is correct. I'm not sure how the error occurred in the first place, though I have my suspicions, and I'm not where I can check my original manuscript for the earlier book to see whether or not it was in it. I strongly suspect that it was, however. This is the sort of discrepancy that can creep in when you have lots of characters to keep up with over extended periods. Usually, when I make an entry in the master character list for a series, it will include a notation like "36 in September 897" to keep me straight on his/her age at later (or earlier) points in his/her life, but math errors can creep in when you do the addition or subtraction to get to the current age. I imagine that's what happened here. Daivyn's age had changed since I first entered him into the list and a math error slipped in thanks to those damned Roman numerals of Langhorne's! :evil:


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Re: Prince Daivin's age
Post by kbus888   » Wed May 07, 2014 12:37 pm

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I have met someone who is Oriental (Chinese, I think) who told me than where he was born, ages are bumped-up-by-one at the start of each new year.

IIRC, this custom caused some confusion when his wife died and her age at time of death was included in the obituary notice - - -

(I am assuming he meant "Chinese New Year" which I think is sometime in January.)

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ManyMyths wrote:Well, here's where it gets tricky. In Aug 895, both Queen Hailyn and Lord Lakeland refer to Daivyn turning 11 in HFAF, p 1021 & 1025 (Nook Edition). Then, in March 896 while Daivyn's fishing, p36 text states he's 10 in MTAT. Then in Aug 896, in LAMA, p172, coming into Corisande,he's ten days past his 11th birthday.


They are calculating with Langhorne's numerals, and little details like the order of the integers occasionally become obscure. Alternatively, some of these places quote the American age, and others the European.

Thus my grandfather reached the American age of 100, meaning that he was by eastern European standards in his 101st year. There are also places that reckon since a fixed point after birth, though details skip my memory. That should give you plenty of slack.
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