(Spoiler) What military role will Corisande play in HFQ?

There are a couple of points I want to add here..
First, I believe that sending Corisandians to Chisholm is essential both beecause of the need to integrate them into the Imperial Armed Forces and because that is where the up to date training facility is.

Secondly, were the Marines in Corisande to be shifted to an active front they also would need their training updated. At the time of the war with Corisande muzzle loading rifled flint locks were the thing. Now we are looking at M96es and breach loading cannon. Further, the Chisholmians were a highly professional army who was able to teach the Charisians as much as they learned from them. Sending Charisians in Corisande and recruited Corisandians to Chisholm for exposure to that experience would be beneficial to both.

Finally, some of you seem to think that the Corisandian Army still exists. It does not. With the exception of 30000 men who were retained to serve as peace keepers, that army was disbanded and would need to be reassembled through recruitment. Their training would need even more updating than the Charisian garrison.

Don

They have sent a naval force into the waters near dohlar, but what if they get the tarots and corisandes to send raiding forces, to expand thier scouting forces, and ensure that everything on the coasts are at risk.

Don, no one has experience using the M96s. Corisandians will learn as quickly as the existing ICA. Heck, it might be argued that they will learn faster since they haven't had to deal with the Mahndrayn iterations in rifle training.

Training the leadership to think more in terms of regiments, brigades and corps might take a bit more time. That's why it might be easier to ease the Corisandians in as marines. They would primarily act as the defenders of the naval bases in Dohlar. Sure they could also act as a quick strike force for action along the Dohlaran coastal cities.

It strikes me that the ICA has had the lions share of recruits lately. The ICN have primarily drafted their marines from Old Charis. I believe that should change and Corisande is a great place to begin the change.

n7axw wrote:There are a couple of points I want to add here..
First, I believe that sending Corisandians to Chisholm is essential both beecause of the need to integrate them into the Imperial Armed Forces and because that is where the up to date training facility is.

Secondly, were the Marines in Corisande to be shifted to an active front they also would need their training updated. At the time of the war with Corisande muzzle loading rifled flint locks were the thing. Now we are looking at M96es and breach loading cannon. Further, the Chisholmians were a highly professional army who was able to teach the Charisians as much as they learned from them. Sending Charisians in Corisande and recruited Corisandians to Chisholm for exposure to that experience would be beneficial to both.

Finally, some of you seem to think that the Corisandian Army still exists. It does not. With the exception of 30000 men who were retained to serve as peace keepers, that army was disbanded and would need to be reassembled through recruitment. Their training would need even more updating than the Charisian garrison.

Don

PeterZ wrote:Don, no one has experience using the M96s. Corisandians will learn as quickly as the existing ICA. Heck, it might be argued that they will learn faster since they haven't had to deal with the Mahndrayn iterations in rifle training.

Training the leadership to think more in terms of regiments, brigades and corps might take a bit more time. That's why it might be easier to ease the Corisandians in as marines. They would primarily act as the defenders of the naval bases in Dohlar. Sure they could also act as a quick strike force for action along the Dohlaran coastal cities.

It strikes me that the ICA has had the lions share of recruits lately. The ICN have primarily drafted their marines from Old Charis. I believe that should change and Corisande is a great place to begin the change.

n7axw wrote:There are a couple of points I want to add here..
First, I believe that sending Corisandians to Chisholm is essential both beecause of the need to integrate them into the Imperial Armed Forces and because that is where the up to date training facility is.

Secondly, were the Marines in Corisande to be shifted to an active front they also would need their training updated. At the time of the war with Corisande muzzle loading rifled flint locks were the thing. Now we are looking at M96es and breach loading cannon. Further, the Chisholmians were a highly professional army who was able to teach the Charisians as much as they learned from them. Sending Charisians in Corisande and recruited Corisandians to Chisholm for exposure to that experience would be beneficial to both.

Finally, some of you seem to think that the Corisandian Army still exists. It does not. With the exception of 30000 men who were retained to serve as peace keepers, that army was disbanded and would need to be reassembled through recruitment. Their training would need even more updating than the Charisian garrison.

Don

Your thought about recruiting them as Marines rather than army is interesting. When I was thinking about uupdating, I was thinking about unit tactic, not learning to use the guns.

Isuppose that how they are to be trained depends on how they are to be used which will depend on MWW.

Don

I see another good reason or two for Corisande Army recruits to go to Chisholm for training. One is that there are too many currently inactive veterans who will need some work to get back into form, and of course learn the new equipment and tactics, as well as the fact that the extra equipment needed isn't on Corisande currently, and will not be locally manufactured there anytime soon.

Secondly, with Sharleyan starting to see some of her nobles get a little uppity, she might need some extra troops who already think highly of her after her visit to Corisande. Remember that Cayleb and Sharleyan think like dynasts sometimes, and having a force who would be willing to help would be a nice insurance policy against whatever those nobles come up with.

Hi Kyladar,

Welcome to the forums, enjoy your favorite simulated beverage on the forum.

Poster have already mentioned the irony of having Corisandans helping keep Sharleyan on the throne, which RFC may find too hard to resist, though he'll express it will no doubt be delicious.

I've also wondered before if it will be Duke Solomon's [of Emerald] last campaign.

Corisandans, regardless of their combat experience, will require many month's of training that are best done at the standard ICA training camps, part of being recognised as an equal part of the empire which is very important politically to Sharleyan and Cayleb, simply because the weapons and more importantly the tactics have advanced several generations ahead of what the Corisandans were trying to learn 4 years ago, and failing.

Training some Corisandans to be marines, with no larger organization than a battalion at most, might be done at Corisande, but major raids beyond a few battalions should then be ruled out.

Regardless, given the map additions on Shwei Bay in Sodar territory, besides Harchong etc; we had textev in AMF regarding Coris traveling to Zion within Desnar's borders for much of the trip that seemed to include Desnar having some of the Shwei Bay coastline, even if how he got to the west coast of Shwei bay at Yu-Shai without already going aboard some ship wasn't explained, there seems to be good reason to expect ICN raids in Shwei Bay in HFQ, despite how remote such might be from the current story threads.

Interesting times,

L

Kyladar wrote:I see another good reason or two for Corisande Army recruits to go to Chisholm for training. One is that there are too many currently inactive veterans who will need some work to get back into form, and of course learn the new equipment and tactics, as well as the fact that the extra equipment needed isn't on Corisande currently, and will not be locally manufactured there anytime soon.

Secondly, with Sharleyan starting to see some of her nobles get a little uppity, she might need some extra troops who already think highly of her after her visit to Corisande. Remember that Cayleb and Sharleyan think like dynasts sometimes, and having a force who would be willing to help would be a nice insurance policy against whatever those nobles come up with.