(Spoiler) What military role will Corisande play in HFQ?

Now that Corisande is part of the EC, do you think it will send troops into battle against CoGA? At the opening of this series Corisande had a large(for an island nation) and apparently well-trained army. Will its army be reconstituted? If so, how long would it take to train and equip them with "modern" weapons? And would this proposed army be shipped west to augment the South March/Silkiah/Dohlar theater, or go island hopping eastward to disrupt South Harchong manufacturing or add a land force to the EC naval build-up in the Gulf of Dohlar?

Almost certainly there will be an influx of troops from Corisande in the next book or 2. Corisande is now part of the Charisan Empire and their citizens are eligible for military service. And there is that little matter of an agent of the CoG trying to blow up their beloved princess ON HER WEDDING DAY. After that, I would be shocked if angry Corisandians *didn't* flock to the colors.

Definitely East. There is already 50,000 troops in a second echelon going West from Chisholm. Whatever Corisande send should back up the forces in the Gulf of Dohlar. Imagine what a mobile force armed with M96s and cartridge firing revolvers could do rampaging along the coastal towns and cities of Dohlar could do. Earl Windshare would have a blast wreaking such havoc with his cavalry. Koryn Gahrvai would utilize infantry similarly armed to good effect destroying the Dohlaran war making infrastructure.

Going West is redundant. Going East makes way more sense.

I don't know what direction they'll take once trained but I believe that the Corisandian recruits will first go to Chisholm for training (or further training if they were Corisandian Army veterans).

Oh, after the attack on Hektor and Irys, I agree that there will be plenty of Corisandian willing to join up.

SCLibrarian wrote:Now that Corisande is part of the EC, do you think it will send troops into battle against CoGA? At the opening of this series Corisande had a large(for an island nation) and apparently well-trained army. Will its army be reconstituted? If so, how long would it take to train and equip them with "modern" weapons? And would this proposed army be shipped west to augment the South March/Silkiah/Dohlar theater, or go island hopping eastward to disrupt South Harchong manufacturing or add a land force to the EC naval build-up in the Gulf of Dohlar?

PeterZ wrote:Definitely East. There is already 50,000 troops in a second echelon going West from Chisholm. Whatever Corisande send should back up the forces in the Gulf of Dohlar. Imagine what a mobile force armed with M96s and cartridge firing revolvers could do rampaging along the coastal towns and cities of Dohlar could do. Earl Windshare would have a blast wreaking such havoc with his cavalry. Koryn Gahrvai would utilize infantry similarly armed to good effect destroying the Dohlaran war making infrastructure.

Going West is redundant. Going East makes way more sense.

But where's the strategic advantage? The Dohlaran Army is already pretty messed up. The Navy can disrupt supplies and deal with their Dohlaran counterparts. The threats are from the MHOGATA, the COGA forces still in the field and the Temple Lands manufacturing abilities. The EoC need those dealt with much more than they need showy raids in Dohlar.

DrakBibliophile wrote:I don't know what direction they'll take once trained but I believe that the Corisandian recruits will first go to Chisholm for training (or further training if they were Corisandian Army veterans).

Can't see it. Much more efficient to send the trainers to the recruits rather than the other way round, if the recruits are in any serious numbers.

I can't remember what size of forces they let Corisande keep under the 'surrender' settlement, but it would be enough for some cadre at least. Plus there is the EoC garrison on Corisande. Marines or Army and how many?

Randomiser wrote:

PeterZ wrote:Definitely East. There is already 50,000 troops in a second echelon going West from Chisholm. Whatever Corisande send should back up the forces in the Gulf of Dohlar. Imagine what a mobile force armed with M96s and cartridge firing revolvers could do rampaging along the coastal towns and cities of Dohlar could do. Earl Windshare would have a blast wreaking such havoc with his cavalry. Koryn Gahrvai would utilize infantry similarly armed to good effect destroying the Dohlaran war making infrastructure.

Going West is redundant. Going East makes way more sense.

But where's the strategic advantage? The Dohlaran Army is already pretty messed up. The Navy can disrupt supplies and deal with their Dohlaran counterparts. The threats are from the MHOGATA, the COGA forces still in the field and the Temple Lands manufacturing abilities. The EoC need those dealt with much more than they need showy raids in Dohlar.

Control of the Gulf of Dohlar doesn't mean stopping 100% of the ship carrying raw materials for weapons production. Destroying the manufacuring centers would mean destroying 100% of the weapons production. That's the advantage of the Corisandian soldiers in the Gulf of Dohlar. If the extra troops help the ICN capture and keep Trove and/or Dragon Island, those will be two bases very close the Dohlaran coastal cities.

I can also see taking and keeping Dairnyth before the GHoGatA move South to skirt the northern Gulf of Tanshar to reinforce Dohlar. The GHoGatA might well pull what Eastshare did to move his troops North to Malphyra bay last year using galleons/coasters to carry supplies. Eastshare would be hardpressed to make it all the way there if the Dohlarans destroy the locks as they retreat. The Corisandians might well make it to Dairnyth quicker than eaither Eastshare or Symkyn.

Besides, sending ships to Corisande to pick up the newly formed ICA units and then going back West to Siddermark would take more time than continuing East to the Gulf of Dohlar.

All things considered the advantages of opening up another front helps the Allies more than it hurts them. The CoGA would have to spread their much more limited supply of modern rifles and artillery over a wider AoO. The Corisandians have a chance of destroying Dohlar's manufactories if they head to the Gulf. The ICN can permanently establish a number of naval bases in the Gulf of Dohlar with the additional troops Corisande can supply.

Randomiser wrote:

PeterZ wrote:Definitely East. There is already 50,000 troops in a second echelon going West from Chisholm. Whatever Corisande send should back up the forces in the Gulf of Dohlar. Imagine what a mobile force armed with M96s and cartridge firing revolvers could do rampaging along the coastal towns and cities of Dohlar could do. Earl Windshare would have a blast wreaking such havoc with his cavalry. Koryn Gahrvai would utilize infantry similarly armed to good effect destroying the Dohlaran war making infrastructure.

Going West is redundant. Going East makes way more sense.

But where's the strategic advantage? The Dohlaran Army is already pretty messed up. The Navy can disrupt supplies and deal with their Dohlaran counterparts. The threats are from the MHOGATA, the COGA forces still in the field and the Temple Lands manufacturing abilities. The EoC need those dealt with much more than they need showy raids in Dohlar.

DrakBibliophile wrote:I don't know what direction they'll take once trained but I believe that the Corisandian recruits will first go to Chisholm for training (or further training if they were Corisandian Army veterans).

Can't see it. Much more efficient to send the trainers to the recruits rather than the other way round, if the recruits are in any serious numbers.

I can't remember what size of forces they let Corisande keep under the 'surrender' settlement, but it would be enough for some cadre at least. Plus there is the EoC garrison on Corisande. Marines or Army and how many?

It was 30000 troops under arms for peace keeping purposes in Corisande. Corisandians willing to swear allegiance to Empire could enroll in armed forces as soon as terms armistice were accepted.

Don

DrakBibliophile wrote:I don't know what direction they'll take once trained but I believe that the Corisandian recruits will first go to Chisholm for training (or further training if they were Corisandian Army veterans).

Oh, after the attack on Hektor and Irys, I agree that there will be plenty of Corisandian willing to join up.

Drak,
It is a waste of time and resources to go anywhere to train. There is an excellent core cadre of Charisians to train Corisande's new Army right there at home. Why go West to Go East?

Train them and pick them up on the way to the Gulf of Dohlar

PeterZ Wrote
Definitely East. There is already 50,000 troops in a second echelon going West from Chisholm. Whatever Corisande send should back up the forces in the Gulf of Dohlar. Imagine what a mobile force armed with M96s and cartridge firing revolvers could do rampaging along the coastal towns and cities of Dohlar could do. Earl Windshare would have a blast wreaking such havoc with his cavalry. Koryn Gahrvai would utilize infantry similarly armed to good effect destroying the Dohlaran war making infrastructure.
Going West is redundant. Going East makes way more sense.

First, I almost always agree with your posts- except this time it would seem that "Inferior troops" (Corisandians) are part of a double envelopement against a country that still has large reserves of manpower, an industrial base and apparently competent commanders... and in this case interior lines. Were I Cayleb, I'd think twice.
I will admit that having a fleet able to pull them out makes your plan less risky.

The Gulf of Dohlar prong is primarily a raiding force. With the exception of perhaps taking Dairnyth before the GHoGatA might reinforce it, the Corisandian would raid and run not stand and fight. The idea is to compell the RDA to commit sufficient forces to protect all the primary ports. If they are successful, there would be far fewer troops to launch against Eastshare in Siddermark. If the RDA takes a chance or two, the Corsinadians would concentrate and trash the overly exposed port with the ICN's help.

Taking those island bases closer to Gorath and the Dohlaran coast is doable considering the ICN's superiority. I doubt there are sufficient troops on those islands to deter let alone stop the Corisandian ICA. Yes, I suppose the plan is risky, but hey, this is war. Although the potential reward of tying up troops does outweigh the risks.

tootall wrote:PeterZ Wrote
Definitely East. There is already 50,000 troops in a second echelon going West from Chisholm. Whatever Corisande send should back up the forces in the Gulf of Dohlar. Imagine what a mobile force armed with M96s and cartridge firing revolvers could do rampaging along the coastal towns and cities of Dohlar could do. Earl Windshare would have a blast wreaking such havoc with his cavalry. Koryn Gahrvai would utilize infantry similarly armed to good effect destroying the Dohlaran war making infrastructure.
Going West is redundant. Going East makes way more sense.

First, I almost always agree with your posts- except this time it would seem that "Inferior troops" (Corisandians) are part of a double envelopement against a country that still has large reserves of manpower, an industrial base and apparently competent commanders... and in this case interior lines. Were I Cayleb, I'd think twice.
I will admit that having a fleet able to pull them out makes your plan less risky.