Rediscovery of Technology

Check out on the web what the world largest known pyramid looks like buried underneath the top soil in Bosnia. Oops, I guess natural geologic processes can bury large man made earth structures. By the way, that's on my bucket list is to go work the site as a paying volunteer. When I suggested that to the wife...a cold day in hell comes to mind and that was with one glare and glance!

Imaginos1892 wrote:Funny how some people are ready to believe that the pyramids were built by aliens, or psychic powers, but somehow can't bring themselves to believe they could have been built with ropes, logs, and organization. That they can have "faith" in things with absolutely no supporting evidence, but not those with overwhelming evidence. It's like they picked up the scientific method and put it on inside-out.

As for grand conspiracy theories, well, "three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead" pretty much covers that subject.

The term "technology" really means our ability to affect the world around us, and organization is a very powerful technology. The Romans conquered the Celts because they were much better organized. If ancient civilizations had possessed what we would consider "high technology" - mostly, industrialization and powered machines - they would have affected the world in unmistakeable ways that would be impossible to miss even after millennia. Look what we've done in just the last 200 years - pumped billions of barrels of oil, dug open-pit mines miles across and thousands of feet deep, piled up mountains of mine tailings, spread invasive species to every continent both deliberately and accidentally, created new species and wiped some old ones out entirely, dammed and diverted rivers, drained swamps....we sure have left our mark on this planet. If we mysteriously vanished tomorrow, the indisputable evidence of our activities would still be here after a million years. Even artifacts made out of plastic, gold, titanium, and ceramics would still be mostly intact - including several billion AOL CDs! We haven't found AOL CDs from any ancient civilizations.
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Any sufficiently advanced parody is indistinguishable from a genuine kook.

If there had been some sort of ancient global high-tech civilization in the distant past, surely they would at least have taken horses to North America, coffee to South America, and corn to Europe. They might have had more sense than to take mice and cane toads to Australia, but rats would have followed them everywhere. None of these things happened before the 15th century.
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EVERYBODY denies it's a conspiracy -- that proves it IS one!

If the giant pyramid you speak of was the base for a space elevator, then the Moon should be just covered in ancient artifacts.

It is estimated that anyone (or anything) coming to the Moon any time in the next 250,000,000 years will be able to see the landing stages of the Apollo LEM's, and most of the larger pieces of equipment will also still be recognizable, being preserved in hard vacuum. Now a quarter billion years is the sort of span that covers multiple mass extinctions, the entire age of the Dinosaurs or the creation and destruction of supercontinents, so if ancient civilizations or alien beings from beyond the Solar System left artifacts on the Moon, then we would almost certainly have seen or found them by now. (Space probes are so good that they have snapped pictures of the Apollo landing sites while in Lunar orbit, and an American Space probe has used its cameras to photograph the crash site of a failed Mars probe while it was orbiting Mars).

And please don't say it's a conspiracy, the Moon has been closely examined by space probes from the former USSR, the United States, Japan, China and India since the early 1960's. Many of these nations would delight in blowing a conspiracy that an opposing nation has developed; I can't imagine anything that would make such a disparate group of nations (some of which have long standing disagreements) cooperate on only that one matter.

Thucydides wrote:I can't imagine anything that would make such a disparate group of nations (some of which have long standing disagreements) cooperate on only that one matter.

Unless they've all agreed to pretend to have those disagreements just to make you think that....
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I used to think I was paranoid.
I thought people were out to get me.
Now I know the truth - they ARE out to get me.
I feel so much better.

Here's a possible rediscovery of a technology known to the Romans but lost. Please discount the headline and read the facts of the story. I have a difficult time saying that the Romans knew about nano technology and that's why I hate the headline!

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-his ... logy-00793

Here's a possible rediscovery of a technology known to the Romans but lost. Please discount the headline and read the facts of the story. I have a difficult time saying that the Romans knew about nano technology and that's why I hate the headline!

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-his ... logy-00793

Ignoring the inflammatory nonsense about nanotechnology, it does seem that the Romans utilized their technology in a way we would be unable to replicate today using the same tools available to them. We have lost the knowledge of how to APPLY their technologies to the levels of effectiveness they were able to obtain. This seems to be true for almost any old civilization. It makes you wonder how future civilizations will regard us? Perhaps something like the shock Millennials experience when seeing Apollo 13. They did WHAT with SLIDE RULERS?!?!!

Not just technology, but attitudes as well. In the HBO series "From the Earth to the Moon", the episode on the development of the LEM has two very interesting segments.

In the first, the project leader is unconvinced that removing the LEM seats and having the astronauts stand will be workable. The rest of the team cuts apart cardboard boxes and tapes together a mockup. so he can stand inside and see what they are talking about. Result is the LEM design gets changed.

In the same episode, the Apollo crew going to test the LEM in space discuss the mission and the commander comments that there will be "ten" untried events on that flight.

Today, the project leader would probably get a computer simulation and a deck of PowerPoint slides, and I doubt any project would be allowed to proceed with ten untried procedures on one mission.

Different ways of looking at and attacking problems will also lead to different results.

I am not saying that this is true but I open to the evidence that was presented. This link is roughly 2 hours long. If a person is going to argue one side or the other side of the issue, take the time to watch the entire video. If the person does not take the time to watch the video, do not comment on the issue!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE

All I have to say is "Wow!" I do not know if I want to go screaming outside the room about this non-sense or be totally enthralled. This theory explains so many interesting points about our planet.

Jeez, if you like conspiracy stuff, at least this link is a bit more plausible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CymBqB49Itg

Most of the presentation is hard for me to swallow because it goes against what I learned in school. However, I always believed Man did not originate on the Earth. My pet theory was Humans originated on Mars and somehow we left the planet due to war, environmental/climate change, or solar system type of disaster. The reason for my belief that Humans came from somewhere else is that I can not see us coming from monkeys or gorillas without more evolutionary links. *Note for all readers, I just can see the proof that we came from Monkeys or Apes but it doesn't mean that it did not happen. For us to be engineered makes more sense than the current evolutionary model.

The biggest reason I listened to his arguments about 13th planet that was struck by a rogue planetary body. The theory explains why Earth is the only planet to have plate tectonics and some other unique planetary features and/or conditions within our solar system. The Sumerians took the time to write down what happened. The reason I willing to listen that throughout the ages, man has documented Alien interactions in history and cultures of the world. It's in our art from pre historic times to our present. The problem I see it as no one knows the whole story. Their might be good reasons for us not to know and then again governments or individuals within the government might just be empire building so to speak.

The problem with these type of questions are if maybe is partially correct then it unlocks Pandora's box. People then start saying it's a Conspiracy theory so they can go back to their lives. As a result, most people do not want to believe in these types of ideas because their whole world paradigms are changed or violated. I just know that this type of information scares me if some of the information is true. Also, I have premise that society and technology are cyclical rather than linear due to variety of factors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQfofTXIvb8

note: I added links to point towards credential professionals that worked in the defense industry!