Linux vs Winblows

Why oh why do people continue to use Winblows?
When the wind blows so does Windows.
And the wind always blows...as does Windows.

Viruses aren't a problem with Linux, Unix.
Just think of Linux as being your homey.
And...homey don't play that!

The most secure and powerful OS in existence!

No annoying popups. No annoying viruses. No annoyingly slow performance because of cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies cookies.

Dammit if I want a cookie problem I'll go and buy some!

No computer telling me NOT to shut down my computer, even though I need to, simply because IT has decided to download hundreds or thousands of updates, and all without asking me a damn thing.

I thought I was the system administrator!

Windows publishes patches---fixes people, these are fixes--- for their operating system even before the operating system is released!

Huh?

Essentially you are saying to me, that "We know this new version is broken, isn't ready to be released but since we are releasing it anyways, here are the fixes---ahead of time???"

WTF!!!

I don't know if they're stupid or the users whom constantly are brainwashed into using this junk...Well don't get angry at me, if the shoe fits, select it with the mouse!

Linux is such a joy to use. Powerful. Elegant. Efficient.

Once, back in the windows 98SE era, which incidentally is the best version of windows, period, I actually used Linux to run windows in a box (as a program). As a result my computer never crashed, no blue screen of death, and if there did arise a problem, all needed to be done was to shut down the errant program.

Linux runs windows better than windows runs windows???!!!

The entire internet is based on Linux.
All major computing facilities are Linux based. The smart mission critical ones anyways.

Your local bank depends on a Linux, Unix server to manage its operations. The ATM's, your accounts, etc., etc.

You wouldn't like it much if you went to collect money out of your ATM and it was windows based....."please wait, I am downloading updates, or "In case of problems, Please press 'Ctrl Alt Delete'",

From all of the banging on the ATM's in frustration would lead to arrests of people trying to get their own money, etc...

70,000 viruses each day are found for windows. It is not a secure OS. Less than 100 total for Linux, and none are serious. Most are attacks on a particular program...such as Firefox, which does not result in a total system crash as damage is very limited.

Oftentimes when Windows is patched, the Patch causes problems!

And the POWER of Linux!...

And everything is FREE! Only the computer costs.
Many free wordprocessing programs are available that are compatible with and rival windows based ones, that won't cost you in update fees the following year.

And you don't have to purchase an antivirus program at a yearly cost either! Heck, I know people who don't even bother to place antivirus software on their Linux machines. It is simply not needed!

Oh it's true.
Oh it's true.

And what is with a a software giant selling you an OS that does NOT come with a word processing program???

There are tons of people whom buy PC's for word processing only. They have bought a one to two thousand dollar machine with a limited time use of the wordprocessor?

Really?

Sh--!

Linux is only free if your time is worthless.

The E wrote:Linux is only free if your time is worthless.

As opposed to time wasted on a support line to India talking to someone whom language you can't even identify after already wasting days trying to repair yourself?

And of course your lost data isn't valuable.
Or your time inputting, compiling, debugging thousands of lines of code.

That's an assinine excuse. Because my time is valuable I use Linux. When I have time to waste, like playing games, then Winblows.

You are just too lazy to spend a little time trying something different. And because Microsoft's brainwashing techniques are complete.

Really sad...because you can run Linux, for free on your existing computer from a thumb drive.

If you have the brain of a gerbil you can learn it.
Extreme power is there for those whom need it.
Hidden from those who don't.

People are afraid of the command line. You don't need to use it.

How many people use the command line on windows? Or even know it's there?

cthia wrote:As opposed to time wasted on a support line to India talking to someone whom language you can't even identify after already wasting days trying to repair yourself?

And of course your lost data isn't valuable.
Or your time inputting, compiling, debugging thousands of lines of code.

That's an assinine excuse. Because my time is valuable I use Linux. When I have time to waste, like playing games, then Winblows.

You are just too lazy to spend a little time trying something different. And because Microsoft's brainwashing techniques are complete.

Really sad...because you can run Linux, for free on your existing computer from a thumb drive.

If you have the brain of a gerbil you can learn it.
Extreme power is there for those whom need it.
Hidden from those who don't.

People are afraid of the command line. You don't need to use it.

How many people use the command line on windows? Or even know it's there?

Yeah, sure, great start there. You're making a lot of assumptions about me, my personal and professional background there, and you are completely discounting anything I might say because obviously Linux is so superior to everything.

I mean, I will readily ackknowledge that Windows isn't optimal by any stretch of the imagination. But neither is Linux; the time I would need to familiarize myself with the way Linux/Unix does things is better spent continuing to work with Windows, because at the end of the day? Linux will not allow me, personally to be more productive. The things I do with my PC are equally easy to do on both operating systems, and my personal preference for Visual Studio over any of the open source IDEs out there just seals that deal for me.

And yeah, in all the years since I started using Windows Vista, I had only a couple of crashes, and never one that was in any way catastrophic, or even the fault of Windows (but rather some POS DVD player software).

Except you're wrong. http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/20/5326772/windows-xp-powers-95-percent-of-atms-worldwide

cthia wrote:Your local bank depends on a Linux, Unix server to manage its operations. The ATM's, your accounts, etc., etc.

You're very successful at not understanding that most computer users don't have the time or (more importantly the inclination) to learn the technical skills required for Linux.

The other thing is that (for better or worse) the world of business relies on programs that are built for Windows and spending the time and money to provide those same off the shelf capability for a Linux environment not to mention the additional training and increased time to complete tasks is not a wise business choice.

E.
You mentioned Visual Studio.

Which is one of the few reasons IMHO to use windows--the availability of particular software/hardware that isn't available for Linux.

So say that, and not simply 'because of a time consideration.' And if you are a power user then obviously you can use either.

And yes, Linux is superior. Period.

Yes, because things like this are always black and white. Clearly Linux can do everything Windows can better, faster, and cheaper.

By the way, how do you handle user file permissions in multi-thousand user network environments in Linux? It's rather easy with Windows...

cthia wrote:And yes, Linux is superior. Period.

Donnachaidh wrote:Except you're wrong. http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/20/5326772/windows-xp-powers-95-percent-of-atms-worldwide

[quote="cthia"Your local bank depends on a Linux, Unix server to manage its operations. The ATM's, your accounts, etc., etc.

You're very successful at not understanding that most computer users don't have the time or (more importantly the inclination) to learn the technical skills required for Linux.

The other thing is that (for better or worse) the world of business relies on programs that are built for Windows and spending the time and money to provide those same off the shelf capability for a Linux environment not to mention the additional training and increased time to complete tasks is not a wise business choice.[/quote]

No. I am not wrong.
That refers to the software running the ATM's only!

All accounting, overseeing, and management and syncing of the data from the software yielded from the ATM's are controlled by mainframes at the particular bank.

Mainframes are Not windows based.
Sure in 2011 IBM innovation introduced windows support into mainframes. But if you think that tried and true OS's were scrapped in favor of Windows, which is proven to be totally unsecure-then "I am Mark Twain."

It is better to be silent and let people think you are dumb,
Than to speak and remove all doubt.

Twain would appreciate that, and he be a using Linux.

And this statement...

The other thing is that (for better or worse) the world of business relies on programs that are built for Windows...

End users...the secretaries, accountants, etc are dependent on windows software.

The business world is dependent on Wall Street which is dependent on Unix.

Do you really think that a Windows mainframe, if one exists, is at the foundation of the computer-controlled assets of Wall Street?

You are dependent on the internet. The internet is built upon and dependent upon Linux, or more assuredly Unix.

And that's totally fine. Right tools for the right jobs and all that.

But simply proclaiming that Linux is the bestest and everyone using Windows is a horrible noob who doesn't know better is just stupid. Yes, for you personally, and for your work, Linux may be the ideal fit. More power to you! But that does not make the millions of people happily using their Windows machines for whatever suddenly wrong.

Donnachaidh wrote:Yes, because things like this are always black and white. Clearly Linux can do everything Windows can better, faster, and cheaper.

By the way, how do you handle user file permissions in multi-thousand user network environments in Linux? It's rather easy with Windows...

cthia wrote:And yes, Linux is superior. Period.

Do you not realize that that kind of file permission control is built into Linux, was a part of Linux' conception?! Right from the beginnng decades ago with the very first Unix!

It wasn't even possible on windows until Windows NT. And limited even then. Now you are just grasping for straws. And you're pulling the short ones.