I know I sound very angry in that post, but the arrogance and bigotry is enraging.
One can make a cogent argument for the moral imperative of interventionism. An alternative history in which America was alone to confront a Germany that had emerged victorious over Russia and Great Britain and a Japan that had conquered China, Malasia and Indonesia as well as Australia might not have been pleasant for the United States. However; the probability that those two powers would attack and destroy each other before attempting to attack the United States which is defended by the Pacific and Atlantic oceans suggests that isolationism combined with a powerful Navy could have saved us from fighting WW-2, the Korean war, the Vietnam War, the cold war (which so easily could have escalated to a nuclear war), the first Gulf War, the Iraq War, the war in Afghanistan and the "war on terror" which is turning out to be just as disastrous for civil liberties as Lincoln's totalitarian excesses during the Civil War.
I know the Colonel USMC that commanded the combat engineering battalion during the Iraq invasion. US Marines were getting shot at and killed with antitank weapons manufactured in France and promptly sold to Saddam during the final months before the invasion. Iraq would not have been perceived as so threatening if cheating on the UN sanctions by our allies had not made it seem inevitable that Iraq would get nukes. With allies like these, who the he'll needs enemies?
ON a practical level, the contributions by allies such as Australia and New Zealand are real and perhaps significant from their perspective. However; the forces that they are able and willing to deploy are inconsequential compared to what the US brings to the battlefield. More importantly, if the US had not involved itself in foreign wars, there would have been no terrorist attacks that had provoked our need to be in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since Obama has worked so diligently to snatch defeat from the jaws of Bush's victory, these wars have served no lasting purpose.
While I should not allow my piqué at the hostility and rudeness of foreign posters to motivate rash positions, the simple truth of the matter is that our allies will inevitably become either irrelevant or our enemies. The demographic reality is that all of our allies including Europe,
Australia, New Zealand and Japan are on a demographic death spiral. No society can survive below replacement level TFRs for multiple generations. It was the Spartan's nfatuation with infanticide, not the Athenian navy, that caused them to loose the Pelopenisian war. Rome fell because their population became not just indolent but too few in number and too old to raise an army against the barbarians they way they had rallied against Hannibal's invasion. Japan's population is poised for the most catastrophic decline, but their prohibition on immigration ensures that their culture will remain Japanese unless someone conquers them. Most of our European allies have attempted to offset their declining birth rates with immigrants from Africa and Asia who are overwhelmingly Muslim. Given continued immigration rates and the differential in birth rates, that 5% to 10% Muslim minority that our European allies so eagerly tolerate to demonstrate their enlightened support of diversity and tolerance are going to become the Muslim majority that is as intolerant of atheists as Daryll is of Christains.
On a practical level, US birth rates and TFRs have fallen below replacement levels thanks to Obama. However; the US has not been on a demographic death spiral for generations. We still have a large enough cohort of women of child bearing age that can sustain and expand our population as an alternative to surrendering the country to immigrants. (At least immigrants from Latin America share a cultural and religious heritage with the US and America's immigrants from Asia are extremely well educated, productive citizens who eagerly assimilate to our culture). Unlike our allies, the US can survive but only if we reject their influence in our politics and culture.
PeterZ wrote:My parents lived through being occupied by Japan in WWII. I am here today because the US decided that good men will not stand idle in the face of evil. Every society will have its free loaders and socialists who continue to tempt good men (and women) to do nothing when evil arises.
Don't be tempted 'Fly.
Btw, I was cheering as I read your post. Until that last part. Yes, we should raise our threshold for military intervention. We should never ignore evil or do nothing when we recognize it.
namelessfly wrote:Your snip was definitely worth repeating.
I should not allow myself to be goaded especially by intentional trolling. However; it has been my experience from personal contacts with various foreigners is that they truly are hostile to Americans in general and politically conservative Americans in particular. Given the history of the US repeatedly saving their miserable asses, this bigotry and hostility is beyond unforgivable. We can not undo the mistakes of the past but we can choose to not repeat them. I can not cite any particular event that is likely to be catastrophic for Australia, but there are a number of plausible scenarios that could become a reality if the US were to renounce the treaties that obligate us to defend these ingrates.
May be the Chinese would be willing to forgive a few Trillion dollars worth of Obama's debt if the US were to declare open season on Australia and New Zealand?
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