Most hated character

bunyipbelle wrote:My vote goes to the Detweilers. I want them dealt with appropriately by hordes of angry treecats dressed in battle armor equipped with six inch claws made from battle steel

Who needs battle armor and claws. Just send them into the Sphinx bush and let the 'cats know.

I do not know if treecats can herd a hexapuma. But, I am pretty sure they could lure one where they wanted it to be.

Instead of soiling their own claws and fangs with such filth, I think they are civilized enough to just gather and watch as the hexapuma does the rest. And, if the the various condemned are released together in one spot with only one hexapuma around, justice could be deliciously slow.

Afterwards, a particular request would be made countless times: "Play it again, Sam---antha."

waddles for desert wrote:

cthia wrote:Waddles for dessert,
On the Masadans.
The Masadans represent the kind of personal affront to my sense of rightness that stuns me.

Institutionalized, malicious, proselytizing self-righteous evil is the most MAlignant.

It ascribes evil behavior to a societal position of virtue.

In D&D terms, generally lawful evil although the malicious aspects will have chaotic manifestations.

For me, the Masadan elders and the Detweilers epitomize the worst because they utilize their positions of authority to lead into atrocious evil people who work to be virtuous within their frame of reference.

I always ascribed the Masadans as being LG.

But then I always play CE.

Chaotic Evil means never having to say you're sorry.

Grayson Lawful Good.

Masada Lawful Evil with Neutral and even Chaotic Tendencies.

I usually go for Neutral Good with admittedly some Neutral Tendencies. I would consider that anyone and probably everyone can have their Chaotic Evil moments or at least the potential given their specific provocation or temptation.

Lord Skimper wrote:I always ascribed the Masadans as being LG.

But then I always play CE.

Chaotic Evil means never having to say you're sorry.

... Masadans are Lawful Good? Are you just the biggest troll ever, or do you actually believe the crap you say?

I'm actually terrified you believe that it's okay to stone people to death, and beat the babies out of women, if you like them. Or just kill them. Or, hell, if you're a pansy, just take away all their rights and make them a baby-producing mattress that can cook. Why stop at women, though! Oppression for everyone!

Sounds like good people to me, right? I bet you and Hitler could chum it up real well. Or have a beer with Stalin.

Then again, you could just have no idea how the hell the alignment system from DnD works. That would be on par with the idiotic comments we've seen from you thus far. In DnD terms, the Masadans would be either Neutral or Lawful Evil. Lawful Good would be represented best by Thomas Thiesman.

Chaotic Evil in Honorverse? The closest I can think of is Andre Warnecke, formerly of Sidemore, even more formerly of Chalice. He didn't care about anyone but himself. He blew up a city to make a point. Chaotic Evil isn't "never having to say you're sorry," it's just not caring about anything you do enough to even think you need to say "sorry."

Sonia Hemphill.
Political Admiral, and not even an honest politician at that.

cthia wrote:Datachip:

Urgent
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RMN & Allied Personnel,
I need help with a personal project. I intensely identify with characters, as I am sure we all do. And I am not above shedding a tear. But characters can also really get under my skin. However, I haven't been able to definitively settle on my most hated character. It fluctuates back and forth between two. Pavel Young (SOB!) And that frickin' lowdown sorry piece of...of...Baron High Ridge and the way he drove the government into the ground with his pettiness. And just when Elizabeth's navy was about to drop the bomb on Haven (so to speak). I ask you RMN, for your vote for number one hated character of all. Of course it is ok to elaborate and even add others (I understand the need to vent) but please make it clear whom is your #1 hated character. The one that really makes your blood boil. That you'd like to feed out an airlock, after locking them up with a starved hexapuma. I know it is difficult but please try, and remember, do keep it PG-13. (Probably the most difficult task of all)
There are many others of course but I get one number one vote...
1. Baron High Ridge... #$@#$%$ jackass!

exiledtoIA wrote:Sonia Hemphill.
Political Admiral, and not even an honest politician at that.

....are you a troll? Or just massively, massively ignorant? You do realise that Sonja Hemphill is a genius, right?

Look, I will be the first to admit that Soni lacks a little in what might be called the social graces. She's a tech weenie with her head buried so far inside an engineering manual that she's almost forgotten how to deal with people who aren't as much of a weenie as she is.

But she's also a more-than-competent fleet commander with a gift for envisioning military strategy beyond the limits of current technology. She gets over-enthusiastic about her pet projects, sure, but her overriding concern is, and always has been, the effectiveness of the Royal Manticoran Navy, and she will acknowledge when she's wrong. She's not usually happy about being wrong - geniuses rarely are - but she does acknowledge it, and she does learn from her mistakes.

Or are you still stuck in On Basilisk Station? Because that's really the only scenario I can envision where you could possibly believe that Sonja Hemphill is a political admiral.

waddles for desert wrote:I do not know if treecats can herd a hexapuma. But, I am pretty sure they could lure one where they wanted it to be.

Instead of soiling their own claws and fangs with such filth, I think they are civilized enough to just gather and watch as the hexapuma does the rest. And, if the the various condemned are released together in one spot with only one hexapuma around, justice could be deliciously slow.

Afterwards, a particular request would be made countless times: "Play it again, Sam---antha."

...you win.

I strongly suggest you go back and peruse the court-martial of Young.
Hemphill KNEW he was guilty and didn't vote to convict him of all the charges.
Like i said a political admiral and not even honest enough to stay bought.
If she will twice betray her word ( once for her commission and the second for the board of the court )
why shouldn't she betray it again ( of course it would be "for the good of the navy"?

roseandheather wrote:

exiledtoIA wrote:Sonia Hemphill.
Political Admiral, and not even an honest politician at that.

....are you a troll? Or just massively, massively ignorant? You do realise that Sonja Hemphill is a genius, right?

Look, I will be the first to admit that Soni lacks a little in what might be called the social graces. She's a tech weenie with her head buried so far inside an engineering manual that she's almost forgotten how to deal with people who aren't as much of a weenie as she is.

But she's also a more-than-competent fleet commander with a gift for envisioning military strategy beyond the limits of current technology. She gets over-enthusiastic about her pet projects, sure, but her overriding concern is, and always has been, the effectiveness of the Royal Manticoran Navy, and she will acknowledge when she's wrong. She's not usually happy about being wrong - geniuses rarely are - but she does acknowledge it, and she does learn from her mistakes.

Or are you still stuck in On Basilisk Station? Because that's really the only scenario I can envision where you could possibly believe that Sonja Hemphill is a political admiral.

exiledtoIA wrote:I strongly suggest you go back and peruse the court-martial of Young.
Hemphill KNEW he was guilty and didn't vote to convict him of all the charges.
Like i said a political admiral and not even honest enough to stay bought.
If she will twice betray her word ( once for her commission and the second for the board of the court )
why shouldn't she betray it again ( of course it would be "for the good of the navy"?

roseandheather wrote:
....are you a troll? Or just massively, massively ignorant? You do realise that Sonja Hemphill is a genius, right?

Look, I will be the first to admit that Soni lacks a little in what might be called the social graces. She's a tech weenie with her head buried so far inside an engineering manual that she's almost forgotten how to deal with people who aren't as much of a weenie as she is.

But she's also a more-than-competent fleet commander with a gift for envisioning military strategy beyond the limits of current technology. She gets over-enthusiastic about her pet projects, sure, but her overriding concern is, and always has been, the effectiveness of the Royal Manticoran Navy, and she will acknowledge when she's wrong. She's not usually happy about being wrong - geniuses rarely are - but she does acknowledge it, and she does learn from her mistakes.

Or are you still stuck in On Basilisk Station? Because that's really the only scenario I can envision where you could possibly believe that Sonja Hemphill is a political admiral.

...you do realise she went against political pressure to vote for Young's discharge, right? If she was really the political admiral you claim, she'd have voted to acquit. She voted with her own convictions despite considerable pressure for her not to do so.

I suggest you re-read the passage you attempt to refer me to, because you clearly haven't a clue why she did what she did.