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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by clancy688   » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:38 am

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Lord Skimper wrote:Out of the Dark?


That one I already know. It was a good book... except for the end. I mean... it was great SciFi. And then... come on! Whoever has read the book knows what I'm refering to.

(P.S.: I DO like a Fantasy/SciFi mix in the meaning of Arthur C. Clarke's definition of SciFi - any sufficiently advanced technology is industinguishable from magic, but the end of Out of the Dark was something entirely different...)
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by kbus888   » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:26 pm

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?? Ender's Game ??

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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by Skywatcher44   » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:55 pm

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clancy688 wrote:Hi there,

waiting for February 18th (LAMA), I've just finished another ones of DW's one-shots: The Excalibur Alternative.

And franky I find the setting tempting and thrilling. So... do any of you know other books in which humans stumble into a hostile galaxy, full of technological advanced but cultural stagnating aliens? And have to defend themselves against juggernaut? :)


The Stars at War and There Will Be War, anthologies by Jerry Pournelle from the 80s were all good reads (Enders Game started as a short story/novella in this series), and of course the Man/Kzin stories and novels by Larry Niven (and the anthologies with other authors invited in) that go with it) are all good solid reads.
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by namelessfly   » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:02 pm

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There are no Sci Fi books about Xenophilic, Liberal, benign aliens because they were all exterminated by xenophobic, conservative, hostile aliens like myself.

Damn memory. It took me days to think of an antonymn to "hostile"
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:17 pm

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It all starts with Doc Smith.
Skylark Series:
the N(long name) are friendly towards everyone
who is friendly towards other peoples.
Lensman Series:
Arisians are friendly towards everyone who is
friendly towards everyone.

For a generation the Friendly Aliens were a fave trope.

Then readers started to notice that Doc Smith's books
were ... less interesting ... than some other books.

Now the Friendly Aliens trope is considered boring.
That's why it is seen so seldom.
Still there are some such stories to be found,
if only one knows where to look.

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namelessfly wrote:There are no Sci Fi books about Xenophilic, Liberal, non-hostile aliens because they were all exterminated.
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by Lord Skimper   » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:15 pm

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Stargate books? TV show, movie or movies if you count the TV movies. Home world game, Cataclysm, with the awesome Beast. Plus any number of comic books. If you're into that.

Lost Girl TV show, although if you don't like the end of "Out of the Dark", you might be hard pressed. Angel TV show although that is pretty tame compared to "Lost Girl".
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by garfield   » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:07 pm

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RFC has written so many of these I keep waiting for the latest wormhole discovered in Honorverse to open out to the Gbaba/Achuultani or someone similar. It would be poetic justice if that wormhole was near Darius :evil:
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by Emo Otaku   » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:05 pm

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the Space Captain Smith series by Toby Frost (Comic Sci-Fi ) features several sets of aliens.

The Ghast, Regimented militaristic Ant-like aliens, who want to destroy the British Space Empire.
The Yull, xenophobic lemming like creatures whose religion tells them to kill all aliens, foreigners, and slaves before jumping off high places.
and the Republic of New Eden, a human theocracy based on the worship of the Great Annihilator, whose mission it is to save the universe from democracy, freedom, and breathing.

But a quick glance over my book shelves most of my sci-fi tends to be Human against human, I guess its easier for authors and readers to visualise an enemy thats a bit closer to home
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by Daryl   » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:57 am

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Just been reading the Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell. Good old fashioned space opera, with lots of war porn. Some effort to ensure consistent background physics, but occasionally things jar. Fleets of large spaceships dog fight, turning in a shortish radius at 0.1 light speed to do another strafing run, in relatively short times? Still an engaging read, and worthwhile to fill the gaps between Honorverse books.
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Re: SciFi books with xenophobic, conservative, hostile alien
Post by clancy688   » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:35 pm

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Regarding Lost Fleet: The political maneuvering is very intriguing, which is why I'm reading the series and its Lost Stars spin-off.

But the fleet actions are silly at best... ^^

The sensors employed are hilarious. They are relying on passive sensors to observe what's going on. Well, okay, same goes for the Honorverse, where's the difference? For once, those passive sensors can literally look from one side of the star system to the other. To such a degree that they are able to distinguish different ships of the same class over a distance of light hours. And how do those sensors work? They are optical.
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