Movie Cast Discussion

Excellent answers already given and thank you. Like said before, I am sure there are any number of very young talented actors who could do a very good job filling all the required and desired character roles. The key here is they must be willing to work $cheap$ and risk career type-casting. Few actors seem able to work past such and even then it takes years.

Anybody know fur sures what the estimated $budget$ may be for this coming HH:HOTQ? Such would give all of us a better $idea$ of what to expect. I for one am not sooss sure about having the 3D format, but that is just me and probably does not reflect the desires of the movie going public. We know films are made....to make $money$. HB of CJ (old coot)

Thank you Mr. David Weber. You see...sometimes just one person CAN affect millions of lives....and for the better which is sosss cool.

Lord Skimper wrote:Also there are no experts, there are just people who are good.

I never thought I would find something I would agree with you on.

In the USN we defined experts as:
X = unknown
Spurt = leftover residue

Trust in experts at your own risk...

Lord Skimper wrote:Also there are no experts, there are just people who are good.

Most "experts" presents solutions to problems nobody knew existed...
At least that's the case in my line of work.

Joat42 wrote:

Lord Skimper wrote:Also there are no experts, there are just people who are good.

Most "experts" presents solutions to problems nobody knew existed...
At least that's the case in my line of work.

It's always easier to solve the problems that way.

Montrose Toast wrote:

Lord Skimper wrote:Also there are no experts, there are just people who are good.

I never thought I would find something I would agree with you on.

In the USN we defined experts as:
X = unknown
Spurt = leftover residue

Trust in experts at your own risk...

True, but my point is someone who has MA into her muscle memory and headspace is going to move and react differently in every scene from some actress who has no such experience. The actual fight scenes are not my point. They can find a tall asian/anglo woman who is good at MA and a Navy vet as well as being able to act...

I want them to do their jobs, including doing a really good job of casting HH. They are not going to bother with this... just shut it down right now and don't waste anymore time or money.

It is not at all uncommon to just train the actors for real in martial arts as part of the overall filming effort. Similar to making them take guitar lessons if they're playing a lead singer in a band.

I also agree on doing some kind of military drill to make the crew act as if they're a seasoned military unit. Hell, it doesn't even have to be real drill. Make them do Battle Stations drills on the set like it is life and death a few hundred times You'll start to see some of the teamwork and precision happen.

You can't get somebody to black belt levels quickly, but you can get a lot of the right basic reflexes in pretty quickly. (It's been over 20 years since I did Karate and I never made black belt, but I still drop my center of balance reflexively whenever my footing seems unstable. It helped roller skating/ice skating quite a bit, at least after I realized I had to reverse my reflexes when skating backwards to achieve the same effect)

I wonder if there's a new generation of actresses trained in the Hong Kong style of martial arts...the generation of expats that moved to Vancouver when Hong Kong went back to China in the 90s are both too short and too old for the role, but they certainly had the chops and I'd assume there are younguns wanting the part.

Also seriously. There is a lot of asian talent that would kill to get a starring roll in Hollywood. Asians of all stripes are largely invisible on anything made there, unless it is a vehicle for them (eg a Jet Lee movie). Getting new talent willing to be typecast for low salaries might be easier just to help break that barrier down a bit.

IIRC< didnt the actors in The Pacific have to do bootcamp? Or was it another movie/tv series they did this. Im sure i read about actors doing this in the last year or two....

And yeah, it is hard to get to black belt. I took around 3300 hours of training to get mine, and will be at 4000+ hours before I go for my next belt, if not 4200. And I'm one of the fastest ones to go towards black belt too.

solbergb wrote:It is not at all uncommon to just train the actors for real in martial arts as part of the overall filming effort. Similar to making them take guitar lessons if they're playing a lead singer in a band.

I also agree on doing some kind of military drill to make the crew act as if they're a seasoned military unit. Hell, it doesn't even have to be real drill. Make them do Battle Stations drills on the set like it is life and death a few hundred times You'll start to see some of the teamwork and precision happen.

You can't get somebody to black belt levels quickly, but you can get a lot of the right basic reflexes in pretty quickly. (It's been over 20 years since I did Karate and I never made black belt, but I still drop my center of balance reflexively whenever my footing seems unstable. It helped roller skating/ice skating quite a bit, at least after I realized I had to reverse my reflexes when skating backwards to achieve the same effect)

I wonder if there's a new generation of actresses trained in the Hong Kong style of martial arts...the generation of expats that moved to Vancouver when Hong Kong went back to China in the 90s are both too short and too old for the role, but they certainly had the chops and I'd assume there are younguns wanting the part.

Also seriously. There is a lot of asian talent that would kill to get a starring roll in Hollywood. Asians of all stripes are largely invisible on anything made there, unless it is a vehicle for them (eg a Jet Lee movie). Getting new talent willing to be typecast for low salaries might be easier just to help break that barrier down a bit.

Spacekiwi wrote:IIRC< didnt the actors in The Pacific have to do bootcamp? Or was it another movie/tv series they did this. Im sure i read about actors doing this in the last year or two....

And yeah, it is hard to get to black belt. I took around 3300 hours of training to get mine, and will be at 4000+ hours before I go for my next belt, if not 4200. And I'm one of the fastest ones to go towards black belt too.

solbergb wrote:It is not at all uncommon to just train the actors for real in martial arts as part of the overall filming effort. Similar to making them take guitar lessons if they're playing a lead singer in a band.

I also agree on doing some kind of military drill to make the crew act as if they're a seasoned military unit. Hell, it doesn't even have to be real drill. Make them do Battle Stations drills on the set like it is life and death a few hundred times You'll start to see some of the teamwork and precision happen.

You can't get somebody to black belt levels quickly, but you can get a lot of the right basic reflexes in pretty quickly. (It's been over 20 years since I did Karate and I never made black belt, but I still drop my center of balance reflexively whenever my footing seems unstable. It helped roller skating/ice skating quite a bit, at least after I realized I had to reverse my reflexes when skating backwards to achieve the same effect)

I wonder if there's a new generation of actresses trained in the Hong Kong style of martial arts...the generation of expats that moved to Vancouver when Hong Kong went back to China in the 90s are both too short and too old for the role, but they certainly had the chops and I'd assume there are younguns wanting the part.

Also seriously. There is a lot of asian talent that would kill to get a starring roll in Hollywood. Asians of all stripes are largely invisible on anything made there, unless it is a vehicle for them (eg a Jet Lee movie). Getting new talent willing to be typecast for low salaries might be easier just to help break that barrier down a bit.

Movies with a sort of boot camp for actors first, Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers. Surely others, but I know those two did that.

The difficulty of teaching MA quick is precisely why I suggest looking in the MA community for HH and other roles that need to move right to look right. Looking in Vancouver BC- for HH is an excellent idea.

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I think that Angelina Jolie is too old to play Honor.
I think that Emma Watson could play the part of Alice Truman.
Alternate definition of expert - X is an unknown quantity
- spurt is a drip under pressure

bunyipbelle wrote:I think that Angelina Jolie is too old to play Honor.
I think that Emma Watson could play the part of Alice Truman.
Alternate definition of expert - X is an unknown quantity
- spurt is a drip under pressure

I think I prefer yours over the one I knew.
Unknown Drip Under Pressure - lol.