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Post by imperatorzor   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:32 am

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Considering both the presence of shrapnel and shell fragments and the fact that both sides have only moved away from pike and shot warfare in less than a decade would it be unreasonable to keep helmets around in service?

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Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:09 am

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imperatorzor wrote:Considering both the presence of shrapnel and shell fragments and the fact that both sides have only moved away from pike and shot warfare in less than a decade would it be unreasonable to keep helmets around in service?

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Something like this?

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That helmet or one similar is issued to US troops today. Why should Safehold armies settle for less head protection?
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Post by Maldorian   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:28 am

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I asked that question myself. Helmets would be Logical! Current the warfare is on the stage of the american civil war or world war one. In both the soldiers digged trenches to protect themself against enemy bullets and shrapnells. In a trench is the only thing you can hit, the head. So, helmets are easy to fabricate and have a good use in the field.
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Post by Dauntless   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:55 am

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at a guess because despite the advances in arty and rifles they are still essentially Napoleonic era armies, and they did not have helmets.

perhaps the marines that Merlin/Nimue knew had forcefields instead of helmets so as he knows a forcefield isn't doable he's just accepted that they will be more vulnerable then he would like and moved on to things he can change.

i do agree that given everything else merlin has given them the lack of a helmet seems a bit odd.
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Post by Randomiser   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:37 am

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Nit. All we actually know is that no-one has mentioned helmets, we don't have any positive evidence they are not being used.
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Post by JeffEngel   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:55 pm

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Randomiser wrote:Nit. All we actually know is that no-one has mentioned helmets, we don't have any positive evidence they are not being used.

Right. And these are people who, ten years ago, tended to settle things with melee weapons. The only people fighting without armor then were desperate or afraid of drowning because they're fighting aboard ship. Unlike the WWI armies, they don't need to go back to history to get a fighting helmet - the things are, at worst, still in stock, if they ever got off people's heads.
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Post by 6L6   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:37 pm

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The cover of MT&T shows men in helments.
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Post by imperatorzor   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:50 pm

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In "Off Armageddon Reef" they said that Charisian Marines wore breastplates and helmets and that Cayleb's helmet was similar to that of a morion
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Post by n7axw   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:19 pm

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Just doing a quick search of HFQ, steel helmets are mentioned in passing, but not described...

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Re: Helmets
Post by Panzer   » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:10 pm

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Rather than a "Fritz" helmet, I bet the Charisian helmets would be similar to the Brodie.

The Stalhelm probably offers better protection, but, they're far more difficult to produce.
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