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Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by dwileye13   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:44 pm

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It seem to me we have had much mention of the Broadsheets through the last 4 books but nothing on the subversive effects of those documents. Everywhere (?) through the Church Lands we have a constant barrage of commentary on everything from Gwylym spitting in Clyntahns face to the last words of Erayk Dynnys. Although there is but passing mention of these Broadsheets can anyone comment on what effect is apparent in Textev?

What targets for subversive commentary would be high on your list? Mine are as follows
1. Harchong Army – offers of freedom, 40 acres of Farm Land in the Border lands, Tarikah, New Northland or Hildermoss for any soldier surrendering a rifle and swearing loyalty to Siddermark. :evil:
2. Desnair & Dohlar– Describe the total defeat of the combined armies and how many captured/killed. :shock:
3. South Harchong – Announce the interdiction of all commerce and condemnation of all Inquisitors. :cry:
4. Zion – All of the above just to have Clyntahn get more furniture :lol:
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by BrightSoul   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:03 pm

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Those all have potential but there is something far more effective that has yet to be used. Nynian's files have yet to be used.

Personally I'd be using those files to target my messages to each corrupt churchman they have one file. Imagine the effectiveness of releasing the truth about a given Archbishop's purchased decisions, writs and attestations. It could end up making life pretty difficult for the various nobles who gained something by buying it from corrupt churchmen. Simply publish the truth where the people were screwed over by that corruption. If a deal was made to take something from Duchy A because Kingdom B bought it from the corrupt church then the people of Duchy A might begin to look more closely at the inquisition's actions and the actions of their Archbishop.

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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by pokermind   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:00 pm

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dwileye13 wrote:
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1. Harchong Army – offers of freedom, 40 acres of Farm Land in the Border lands, Tarikah, New Northland or Hildermoss for any soldier surrendering a rifle and swearing loyalty to Siddermark. :evil:

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Ah the old reconstruction Republican Party promise to the newly freed slaves, but y'all forgot the mule! Ya Can't pull the plow without a mule, or draft dragon :mrgreen: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_acres_and_a_mule

This reminded me also of the leaflets they dropped in North Korea offering a million bucks for a MiG ;)

Good suggestions, also perhaps a long list of the Grand Inquisitor's cast off women, excuse me the Grand Fornicator's cast off women, and of course any bastards ;)

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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by schoeffelk   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:21 pm

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The files named in the earlier books belonged to Adorai Dynnys (spelling) although Nynian likely had copies. Now might be a good time to go through those files if it is permitted. They had been held but not viewed if I recall correctly.
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by jgnfld   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:25 pm

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schoeffelk wrote:The files named in the earlier books belonged to Adorai Dynnys (spelling) although Nynian likely had copies. Now might be a good time to go through those files if it is permitted. They had been held but not viewed if I recall correctly.


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Wasn't Nynian a bit miffed they hadn't been used already? I think I remember reading that somewhere possibly in a recent RFC tidbit.
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by dwileye13   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:14 pm

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jgnfld wrote:
schoeffelk wrote:The files named in the earlier books belonged to Adorai Dynnys (spelling) although Nynian likely had copies. Now might be a good time to go through those files if it is permitted. They had been held but not viewed if I recall correctly.


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Wasn't Nynian a bit miffed they hadn't been used already? I think I remember reading that somewhere possibly in a recent RFC tidbit.


I believe so but the response was that until the Ebb and Flow of the war had settled on Charis's side the info may not be taken seriously or something like that.

Now may be the time to start leaking those items.

Also, they were Nynian's files sent to Adori and given to the Archbishop for safekeeping i believe.
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by BrightSoul   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:05 pm

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dwileye13 wrote:snip...

I believe so but the response was that until the Ebb and Flow of the war had settled on Charis's side the info may not be taken seriously or something like that.

Now may be the time to start leaking those items.

Also, they were Nynian's files sent to Adori and given to the Archbishop for safekeeping i believe.


Correct, those were the files that Nynian had collected along with ones she had received from Father Paityr's dad.
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by SYED   » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:56 pm

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I bet he order has even more records, just needing the right time and place to be used.
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by Owlish   » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:11 am

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Now I'll freely admit that runsforcelery (aka MWW and several other noms de plume) has had me easily suspend disbelief for many of his various strategies and tactics, but the posting of broadsheets that look anything like the work of a printer by one (or even several) small stealthy devices that are flight-capable without eventual detection is stretching it just a bit, even for my favorite author.

So we have say 4 of these devices (aka SNARKs) create this broadsheet, then they work together to fly themselves, with the broadsheet rolled up, to a suitable location. Two then afix the upper corners to a suitable building, then release the lower corners for the other 2 to afix below. The creation and the posting I can accept; it's the transportation that I get choked up over. Also, unless the SNARKs can make the paper/ink, there are more transportation issue (yes, they could break into a printer's shop and steal the paper/ink, but the stuff still needs to be transported).

I do see the potential here for a nice humorous interlude, where a citizen (perhaps a bit in his/her cups at a late/early hour) observes a broadsheet en route to its' installation - s/he sees a rolled-up sheet of paper flying thru the air with no visible means of support and proceeds to give up drink (at least for the rest of the five-day). But I do think this is a significant potential breech of security; these events _will_ eventually be seen and reported by someone of sufficient stature to be listened to. Obviously, the CoGA will declare that this is certainly the work of devils.

What might the odds be? Say there's a 99.5% chance that the process goes unnoticed. By the 140th post, the odds are 50% that it has been noticed. By the 460th, there's a 90% probability that it has been noticed.

Not that there's a huge downside here; tbh, having the broadsheets declared a Demonic Creation might not have a totally bad impact overall (the lure of the forbidden being a strong human reaction), but the idea that this can be done on a somewhat regular basis (is it once a five-day per major city? twice? daily?) and not eventually be noticed while in progress is just a bit too much for me. What might I be missing?
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Re: Broadsheets and Subversion
Post by d-eye   » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:43 am

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Owlish wrote: but the idea that this can be done on a somewhat regular basis (is it once a five-day per major city? twice? daily?) and not eventually be noticed while in progress is just a bit too much for me. What might I be missing?


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