n7axw wrote:PeterZ wrote:
Enter the King Haarald VIIs. What greater evidence that those life changing behemoths do not offend God than their presence attacking the CoGA forces and no divine opposition manifests? That is life changing, Don.
These ships are evidence for a Church that relies on evidence that current doctrine is erroneous. Sure the moral argument will also be used and that will persuade a good number of Safeholdians. The challenge to established doctrine that these ships represent will persuade a great many more because of the Church's reliance on evidence.
You might be right on this one. But if they were looking for this kind of evidence to prove anything, there is already lots of it laying around. God should have intervened a long time ago and he hasn't. So now what? The Haarahlds might drive the point home for the waverers, but are there enough of them?
We shall see...
Don
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I agree with you that there have been a great many circumstances that have supported the moral conclusion Irys came to believe. There have been some that would support a shift in current doctrine (whatever that doctrine might be). The few KH VIIs Dohlar will see will likely be enough to make the point there.
The rest of Safehold's leadership will likely find the production capacity argument most telling. Charis didn't need to build the behemoths to be able to destroy port city after port city with impunity. The Cities could do just fine thank you very much. Yet, Charis built these monstrosities, all those rifled breach loading artillery pieces for the navy and army, all those infantry rifles, the ammunition, the mortars, their ammo, the River class boats, the City class ships, all the shells the artillery needs and oh by the way we still have some capacity to make those convenient little tools like the lighter and Lord knows what else the fertile Charisian mind can think of.
They build those unnecessary ships from their available capacity which was already enough to swamp the Loyalists forces. That they can so extravagantly engage in unnecessary excess without harming their ability to supply their armed forces with the materials to fight their war is proof that unless God intervenes, the Loyalists are toast. Since God shows no signs of intervening, the loyalist nations had better start considering their exit strategy from the jihad quickly. Because as soon as Siddermark's industry approximates Charis' output, the jihadi nations will be like tethered steer before a Great Dragon.