Clyntahn using the Key of Schueler.

SWM wrote:

phillies wrote:At some point it will occur to Clyntahn that all these seijin come from the Mountains of Light, which are therefore in need of a thoroughgoing military occupation.

I don't think they are going to find a cave miles beneath the mountains hidden with Foundation technology. Clyntahn is welcome to send a force to the Mountains of Light--they can sit and suffer on the glaciers but won't get much done except survive, if they are lucky.

biochem wrote:

DrakBibliophile wrote:Well, IIRC the Wylsynn family never calls themselves "Sons of Schueler" and for all we know the Wylsynns may be descended from a daughter of Frederick Schueler.

Seriously, it would be possible for a secret artifact to be handed down from daughter to daughter but if there is a sacred mission associated with the artifact, then passing through the male line might be better.

For one thing, power within the Safehold Church lays in the hands of the male clergy thus the people involved in the sacred mission would have to mostly men.

While women can strongly influence their husbands and sons, IMO the sacred mission would require the husbands/sons to have full knowledge about the artifact and the mission.

Another aspect is that daughters leave their family to marry into another family.

Thus a mother who has involved her husband and sons in the sacred mission would be required (by Angelic instructions) to pass the artifact to her daughter who would have to start over "recruiting" her husband into the sacred mission.

IMO it would be easier for a family to pass on the artifact and knowledge of the sacred mission to the sons of the family.

For that matter, even in the Wylsynn family, the artifact & knowledge of the sacred mission might have passed from uncle to nephew instead of from father to son.

With the daughters of a family marrying into other families, it might be more difficult for an aunt to pass on the artifact & knowledge of the mission to a niece.

It does make sense for the keys to pass down through the male side, but sometimes there is no male heir. In which case the key must travel through a female to her son. Hopefully anyone smart enough to create the keys would also be smart enough to allow for that possibility when developing the family traditions of how the key should be passed on.

DrakBibliophile wrote:Point.

Although, it's possible that some "holder of the Key and knowledge of the mission" in the Wylsynn family was an only son and had no legitimate sons but had at least one bastard son. That son could have been made legitimate and thus heir to the Key and the mission.

For that matter, assuming that the Key (or other artifact) doesn't do a DNA check, the holder of the artifact might adopt some worthy young man.

biochem wrote:It does make sense for the keys to pass down through the male side, but sometimes there is no male heir. In which case the key must travel through a female to her son. Hopefully anyone smart enough to create the keys would also be smart enough to allow for that possibility when developing the family traditions of how the key should be passed on.

AirTech wrote:And if they find the cave, they find it full of inert gas - new search team required....

DJMacdonald wrote:

AirTech wrote:And if they find the cave, they find it full of inert gas - new search team required....

There's text evidence that at least some of Nimue's Cave's atmosphere was replaced with a breatheable one when Sharley's OB exam was conducted. I don't recall any text evidence that Owl returned it to nitrogen afterwards.

Hank Plantagenet wrote:

DrakBibliophile wrote:Well, IIRC the Wylsynn family never calls themselves "Sons of Schueler" and for all we know the Wylsynns may be descended from a daughter of Frederick Schueler.

Seriously, it would be possible for a secret artifact to be handed down from daughter to daughter but if there is a sacred mission associated with the artifact, then passing through the male line might be better.

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With the daughters of a family marrying into other families, it might be more difficult for an aunt to pass on the artifact & knowledge of the mission to a niece.

Well, perhaps the term "Daughters of Schueler" can be more figurative than literal. There could be a secret sisterhood that over the years has recruited disaffected women and told them "Hey, you know, we weren't always powerless. There once was a society that treated men and women as equals."

What better recruit would there be than a young lady, kicked out of the powerful vicar's family and denied her heritage, and forced into prostitution to make her way in the world? Yes, Anzhelique/Aivah/Nynian.

lyonheart wrote:Hi Hank Plantagenet,

Aivah or Nynian wasn't forced into prostitution, she chose it as a way of getting back at her father, that if she were ever discovered, it would finally shame him.

I don't know her business plan but I doubt it involved taking over whatever enduring criminal element in Zion.

For years people have complained we don't know enough about Nynian/Aivah, now thanks to LaMA's ending, we have the likelihood of an almost complete revelation since they have to talk about something on the way to and back from Zion, NTM some pillow talk, and the quid pro quo Merlin might require from Aivah, ie some of her secrets, to make Merlin feel safer.

Who knows, she may have discovered it from letters from Adorai and others how quickly Merlin or Abram returned from Delferahk, Zion, Daivyn or elsewhere.

L

Drakensang wrote:If this handprints are what I think they are, only people with Schueler DNA will be able to activate whatever is in this chamber.
If in the key is Schueler personality, it will be a very big file and Owl, don't find any while checking what's inside. She only find few executables, but in my opinion personality wouldn't be .eye file because you don't want it to launch at any moment.