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Re: [HFQ] SPOILERS -- Why didn't Merlin? | |
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by Expert snuggler » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:45 pm | |
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Excellent points! Thank you.
A fly on the wall at a tavern or coffeehouse could send OWL some potentially useful information about what's on the mind of the man in the street, assuming they can spare a fly on the wall from all the strategic targets. |
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by n7axw » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:39 pm | |
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I frankly would be very surprised if Clyntahn's reputation hadn't spread far and wide by now. You don't have to be identifying Clyntahn as the problem to find the inquisition's presense stifling or to want out of the war. Dohlar is more of a mercantilist society than an agriculturist one. While they weren't as successful at it as Charis, trade was pretty important to them and I bet they aren't happy that it's gone away. Don When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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by phillies » Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:26 pm | |
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The fliers start with items across the border in Siddarmark and spread across the border toward Zion, one city at a time, each set of flier referencing 'we hear from our friends in..." so that the news can be watched to spread, no matter how hard the Inquisition tries to stop it.
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by Expert snuggler » Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:23 pm | |
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Beautiful. That phrasing would make it sound like there's an organization, one which Clyntahn will go mad trying to unearth.
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by Louis R » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:23 pm | |
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Not beautiful! As in Sarkyn, the organisation will be manufactured to order if no traces can be found.
That's a tightrope Helm Cleaver is already walking - and you can be sure that it's no accident that some of them are being taken when the only way to escape would be to fade into the population.
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by Randomiser » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:20 pm | |
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The broadsheets have been such a background thing that I hadn't really thought much about them, except to gloat. But now that we hear from Rayno so much more about how they are actually being presented, and the Inquisition's natural conclusion that they must be locally printed, it is really very surprising that we have heard exactly nothing about reprisals against local printers or others with access to a press. On the face of it the broadsheets are good evidence of a widespread hostile network with access to printing plant and expertise in many localities. The local printers must be involved somehow. Clyntahn is being uncharacteristically calm about that possibility. I wonder if Rayno has shared with his boss all the details the reader overheard in his thoughts?
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by evilauthor » Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:35 pm | |
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Probably because printing things in secret is a known tactic. It does the Inquisition no good to detain every known printer if the actual printer they want isn't known. Remember, there was mention of underground and hidden printers, even printing done by rank amateurs (which Merlin's pamphlets are clearly not) who don't do official printing work. Not to mention that if they suspected this or that printer of being the one creating the pamphlets, they could spy on them for a while and try to catch them in the act. For that matter, they've apparently caught a number of copy cats this way. It's only recently that Rayno has come to the conclusion that the culprit must be some kind of demon. And that's based on 1) a pamphlet being put up in a place where all entrances and exits were under observation, but no one was seen entering or leaving, and 2) the fact that no pamphlet has gone up within 5 miles of the Temple, which is a pretty conspicuous hole when you're looking for it. |
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by Louis R » Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:20 pm | |
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While you're probably correct that Rayno hasn't passed on all the details of that particular failure, it's pretty clear that he's already proven to his satisfaction that none of the printers inquisitors know about are involved. Other, that is, than the handful of copycats who have already been hunted out and made examples of. One of the disadvantages of being able to prove who printed something - a fairly straightforward analysis the Inquisition has probably shown it can do umpteen times over the years - is that you then have to admit that they _didn't_ do it when they didn't.
You'd think that local paper suppliers would be at some risk, though. OTOH, real forensics on paper requires a level of analysis that exceeds the Inquisition's capability, so they wouldn't expect to be able to march up to the gates of Mykmyyllyn's Paper Mill and say "you made this paper. who did you give it to?". The actual amount of paper involved is probably small enough that they wouldn't expect it to turn up as a bulk purchase from one shop, either.
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by Randomiser » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:40 pm | |
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All that you say is true, it's just that where suspicions of heresy and opposing the Jihad are concerned little things like proof and rationality usually go out the window, cf Clyntahn's reaction to the powder barge explosion or the loss of the recent batcvh of ICN prisoners. The Inquisition have indeed reacted responsibly and reasonably as regards the printers of the broadsheets. That's what is unusual and calls for explanation.
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by n7axw » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:38 pm | |
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My immediate thought here it that the printers who are available to be suspected don't produce quality that would match the quality of the broadsheets, thus eliminating themselves from suspicion... Don When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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