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by Brog » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:11 pm | |
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I was surprise that Merlin would bring Aivah to the cave so quickly.
One possibility I could think of is Khody has left behind something which revealed the truth about the Archangels and the Terran Federation and the upper echelons of SSK is aware of it. And Aivah has revealed them to Merlin offscreen. So maybe Merlin is bringing in Aivah to cave without the knowledge of the Brethen. Could he be forming association with another 'inner circle' group on the mainland with both circles (SSK and Brethen) not aware of each other except for than Merlin and Nimue. |
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by DrakBibliophile » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:48 pm | |
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That's a thought but the Brethren likely have learned about the SSK shortly after Merlin reported his conversation with Aivah.
While IIRC none of the Brethren (besides the Archbishop) were involved when Merlin made his report to the Inner Circle, the Inner Circle isn't likely to hid this information from the Brethren. As for hiding the existence of the Brethren (and the Inner Circle) from Aivah and the SSK, I would not want to be the person to attempt to hide anything from her. Now, it is possible (but IMO unlikely) that Aivah and Sandaria might decide to not inform the rest of the SSK about the Brethren and only tell them about what was discovered about Merlin.
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by fallsfromtrees » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:42 am | |
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Nice analysis - and may well be correct. One of the things that has been bothering me is that fact that two (2) air lorries are being converted. I don't know how many people each can carry, but is should be in excess of 10 each. Why are two of them going to be required? If it was just a case of Merlin fixing a hole in his transportation capabilities, it would make sense to convert one of the air lorries, but two - that smells like a specific mission coming up that is going to require the transport of a fairly large number of people. ========================
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by 6L6 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:50 am | |
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Two lorries, one for the Brethren and one for the SSK for a meeting at the cave.
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by evilauthor » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:42 am | |
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Another thought: Eidetic Memory.
Nynian has it. Other SSK members may have it as well. The latter parts of Kohdy's Journal are written in a language no native Safeholdian can read. It was previously discussed that Merlin and company just give the SSK and Spanish/English dictionary or tutorial book and let them learn Spanish on their own; this was dismissed by fans as taking an impractically long time. But... eidetic memory. To learn Spanish (at least well enough to read it), Nynian doesn't need to spend weeks or even months studying it. She just needs to read a Spanish/English translation dictionary or tutorial once, and then she'll be able to translate all the Spanish parts of Kohdy's Journal in her head. |
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by lyonheart » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:56 am | |
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Hi JeffEngel,
Very thoughtful analysis, so I have only a quibble or two. Regarding Sandaria, she's Nynian's XO, so putting her in the cave seems a non-starter, but answering any and all of HER questions about Merlin is almost as important as Nynian's. She doesn't need to be in the cave, which takes a different mind set and skills, and how will humans running any "operations center" in the cave be better than Nahrmahn and OWL? Having someone with the same tech access as Nynian could be very crucial in Zion etc, backup never hurts. Given speedy delivery could also become important, we should see Merlin consider building more recon skimmers as well, which should be within OWL's means. Passenger seating for the air buses seems only a courtesy given the long flights required, and if Merlin is going to be carrying horses at the same time, building more air buses or air lorries might also be in the pipeline. If SSK operatives are to visit the cave, being trained on the rifles might be a reason, if the operatives know that much of the SSK's secrets, but I doubt Nynian would let them know so much when they could be captured. L
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by pokermind » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:17 am | |
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Hmm, this brings to mind something, what about OWL's shortages of critical components? A labor force to build them in the cave even if only to gather necessry raw materials. A possile reason for a base in the cave. Besides providing a group of agents close to the enemy and, thus able to act in a more timely manner.
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by Randomiser » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:47 am | |
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Jeff sorry, but it strikes me that all of this Sandaria stuff is just baseless speculation spun out of thin air. Worse it ignores what the textev explicitly says about the reasons for this trip. Aivah had insisted upon being accompanied by Sandaria Ghatfryd, . In other words the trip is for Aivah's benefit and Sandaria is just along as an extra.
I can't agree that RFC is hiding Sandaria so she can turn out to be a traitor. Taking her along is about the most glaringly obvious and unexpected thing on this unexpected trip. Having Aivah's long trusted second in command suddenly turning traitor would not be a neat plot twist on RFCs part it would be crude and jarring. C'mon Poker, 'a group of agents close to the enemy'? The folk who are killing Vicars in Zion already seem to fill that slot very nicely, thank you. |
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by JeffEngel » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:53 am | |
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Putting anyone in the Cave is hard to justify. Bringing anyone to the Cave is hard to justify. The whole thing is a real head-scratcher, and I strongly suspect when we find out what's the point of it in a following spoiler, plenty of us will figure it wasn't an adequate reason. So yeah, I am speculating out on a thin limb here. I just think that's the name of the game in this case. The only reasons I can think of are to have a "human touch" there (which commits me to start wondering why that's useful) or to have that human touch available in a secure location with unlimited information access inside the Temple Lands. From there, I get to speculation about having more humans in the Cave, for training or detention, or having a senior part of the SSK on hand. It is indeed a little strained when it's a matter of Aivah insisting on bringing Sandaria. Maybe she's hatching that plan and introducing Merlin to it gradually. Or maybe she's got that in mind but has to see the Cave herself and Sandaria's reaction to it before she springs it on Merlin and Sandaria both. |
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by Keith_w » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:20 am | |
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Owl's remotes seem to be able to build anything needed, given the raw material, so I doubt that would be it. Additionally, these people are coming from a no-tech environment, one would hardly expect them to have the necessary skills to build moly-circs or whatever the shortage is. --
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