Where are my lizards?

saber964 wrote:

Stormeagle wrote:What happened to all of the dangerous predators in the Repubic? Surely all of the church's army's that have been disbanded by CHaris must have been chewed on! How was the Dohlarian army retreating after the destruction of the army of justice not worried about the natural predators that must roam freely in the waste land of the south march?

When your hungry enough you'll eat anything. During the siege of Leningrad and Stalingrad rats cats dogs even the animals in the zoos.

And unfortunately some cannibalism according to one history I read of the "thousand day seige of Leningrad," before the Russians established an ice bridge from the east across Lake Ladoga.

Dilandu wrote:

saber964 wrote: During the siege of Leningrad and Stalingrad rats cats dogs even the animals in the zoos.

Actually, the Leningrad Zoo was preserved, by great self-self-sacrifice of its staff. That's why it is still Leningrad Zoo, while the city is now St. Petersburg; the current staff wanted to preserve the memory and honor of their predecessors.

Sorry for the digression.

I welcome that information and digression! Thank you!

I think that the Siege of Leningrad was the worst of modern history. 850+ days of little or no supplies is unthinkable except for the reality of it. With Stalin's active antagonism towards the city, even in Russia, the legend is under-appreciated!

Charybdis wrote:I welcome that information and digression! Thank you!

You are welcome)

Charybdis wrote:
I think that the Siege of Leningrad was the worst of modern history. 850+ days of little or no supplies is unthinkable except for the reality of it.

Unfortunately yes. The city was starving, constantly bombarded, besieged... but it did not fell, despite everything.

Charybdis wrote:
I think that the Siege of Leningrad was the worst of modern history. 850+ days of little or no supplies is unthinkable except for the reality of it. With Stalin's active antagonism towards the city, even in Russia, the legend is under-appreciated!

Er... I'm not sure I understood: Stalin antagonism against Leningrad? I'm afraid, it's a myth. Actually, it was Stalin who demanded that the blockade must be broken as soon as possible - and Red Army tried several times to break the blockade in quite costly offensives.

It's probably true that Stalin didn't like Leningrad party leaders, but he clearly considered the city as vital part of Soviet Union, which must be saved - both by practical (it was one of the most capable industrial centers) and ideological (the birthplace of Revolution) points of view.

WeberFan wrote:And unfortunately some cannibalism according to one history I read of the "thousand day seige of Leningrad," before the Russians established an ice bridge from the east across Lake Ladoga.

Yes. Unfortunately, this is true.

P.S. By the way, another Leningrad myth - that party leaders feasted during blockade. They didn't. They have better rations, but essentially the same as military officers (which wasn't much better than average civilians in Leningrad). According to the archived medical cards, health deterioration and exhaustion was stated to almost of all of city leadership - even Zhdanov himself was in really bad shape when blockade was finally broken.