Considerations about naval designs

n7axw wrote:Re-read the text in HFAF, especially that conversation between Father Paityr and Howsmyn. In addition, it was discussed by Cayleb, Sharleyan and Merlin as being wwaayy beyond the proscriptions...

Don

Only if you go by the intent of Langhorne. It can obviously be approved if looked at the proper way. Who you gonna pay attention to - a rational sane Paityr or a megalomaniac toon like Langhorne

fallsfromtrees wrote:

n7axw wrote:Re-read the text in HFAF, especially that conversation between Father Paityr and Howsmyn. In addition, it was discussed by Cayleb, Sharleyan and Merlin as being wwaayy beyond the proscriptions...

Don

Only if you go by the intent of Langhorne. It can obviously be approved if looked at the proper way. Who you gonna pay attention to - a rational sane Paityr or a megalomaniac toon like Langhorne

Oh, I completely agree... My only point is that diesil can be approved by the same sort of rationality....

Don

The Delthak and other steam ships had ventilation blowers. It was never discussed how they were powered.

BarryKirk wrote:The Delthak and other steam ships had ventilation blowers. It was never discussed how they were powered.

You're right. I suspect handwavium fan blades powered by the rakurai of Langhorne.

fallsfromtrees wrote:

BarryKirk wrote:The Delthak and other steam ships had ventilation blowers. It was never discussed how they were powered.

You're right. I suspect handwavium fan blades powered by the rakurai of Langhorne.

Why would we believe that they were powered by anything other than steam? Turbines perhaps rather than piston stroke engines...but steam.

Don

n7axw wrote:

Why would we believe that they were powered by anything other than steam?

Compressed air?

~Tonto

Tonto Silerheels wrote:n7axw wrote:

Why would we believe that they were powered by anything other than steam?

Compressed air?

~Tonto

That works, although I'm pretty sure that the steam would do the compressing.

Don

What about torpedoes they quite dangerous weapon which doesn't need very advanced technology. If I'm correct Charis could produce pretty nice torpedoes right now, they would be great for sneaky attack in the night, nobody will know that he was attacked before detonation of torpedo.
Other nice thing would be ship similar to USS Wasp, big ship designed to support landing operation of army, they won't have any planes for quite long time so landing deck would be useless, but mortars and howitzers instead of it would be really nice. I'm talking about big calibers 200+ mm, but I'm not thinking about extreme caliber like 800+ mm. I'm thinking about guns heavy enough to destroy any kind of fortification, but light enough to shoot fast.

Draken wrote:What about torpedoes they quite dangerous weapon which doesn't need very advanced technology. If I'm correct Charis could produce pretty nice torpedoes right now, they would be great for sneaky attack in the night, nobody will know that he was attacked before detonation of torpedo.
Other nice thing would be ship similar to USS Wasp, big ship designed to support landing operation of army, they won't have any planes for quite long time so landing deck would be useless, but mortars and howitzers instead of it would be really nice. I'm talking about big calibers 200+ mm, but I'm not thinking about extreme caliber like 800+ mm. I'm thinking about guns heavy enough to destroy any kind of fortification, but light enough to shoot fast.

Hi Draken,

This has been mentioned before and what it seems to keep coming back to is that given Charis' absolute naval supremacy at the moment, torpedoes such as you describe would be a lot more useful to the bad guys than to Charis. You are right that Charis could develop them, but no point in giving other people ideas of how they might hurt you...

Don

n7axw wrote:

Draken wrote:What about torpedoes they quite dangerous weapon which doesn't need very advanced technology. If I'm correct Charis could produce pretty nice torpedoes right now, they would be great for sneaky attack in the night, nobody will know that he was attacked before detonation of torpedo.
Other nice thing would be ship similar to USS Wasp, big ship designed to support landing operation of army, they won't have any planes for quite long time so landing deck would be useless, but mortars and howitzers instead of it would be really nice. I'm talking about big calibers 200+ mm, but I'm not thinking about extreme caliber like 800+ mm. I'm thinking about guns heavy enough to destroy any kind of fortification, but light enough to shoot fast.

Hi Draken,

This has been mentioned before and what it seems to keep coming back to is that given Charis' absolute naval supremacy at the moment, torpedoes such as you describe would be a lot more useful to the bad guys than to Charis. You are right that Charis could develop them, but no point in giving other people ideas of how they might hurt you...

Don

The other problem is that the US Navy steam powered torpedoes used hydrogen peroxide, which is really nasty stuff, and non trivial to produce (particularly without electricity). It's not clear what other power source they could use that doesn't violate the Proscriptions.