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Please explain how you know Trump and relate the personal story of what you saw that proves Trump is racist.

Oh...it's what he said. The media would never mislead us. They would never cut up a sound bite, deliberately edit a sound bite, or manufacture false documents (or use false documents...aka Dan Rather). None of this has ever happened. So I repeat, how do you know that he is racist without observing the racism. Is this hearsay or provable in a court of law?

Annachie wrote:But Trump is racist. To doubt it is to ignore a hell of a lot of what he has actually said.

As for Sessions, REPUBLICANS thought he was too racist to be a judge.

Let that sink in.

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smr wrote:Please explain how you know Trump and relate the personal story of what you saw that proves Trump is racist.

Oh...it's what he said. The media would never mislead us. They would never cut up a sound bite, deliberately edit a sound bite, or manufacture false documents (or use false documents...aka Dan Rather). None of this has ever happened. So I repeat, how do you know that he is racist without observing the racism. Is this hearsay or provable in a court of law?

For someone who isn't racist, Trump has spent an awful lot of time signal boosting and hiring racists.

Basically, when the KKK and Neonazis think you're doing something right, it may be time to stop and think about whether or not the things you are doing are good ideas.

Must be skillful editing, if I can watch a continuous video of him speaking and see example after example of racist and bigoted comments. This is over a number of his speeches. Hate to say it, but if you don't notice them or consider them to be racist that says something about you as well.

smr wrote:Please explain how you know Trump and relate the personal story of what you saw that proves Trump is racist.

Oh...it's what he said. The media would never mislead us. They would never cut up a sound bite, deliberately edit a sound bite, or manufacture false documents (or use false documents...aka Dan Rather). None of this has ever happened. So I repeat, how do you know that he is racist without observing the racism. Is this hearsay or provable in a court of law?

Annachie wrote:But Trump is racist. To doubt it is to ignore a hell of a lot of what he has actually said.

As for Sessions, REPUBLICANS thought he was too racist to be a judge.

Let that sink in.

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PeterZ wrote:

Annachie wrote:But Trump is racist. To doubt it is to ignore a hell of a lot of what he has actually said.

As for Sessions, REPUBLICANS thought he was too racist to be a judge.

Let that sink in.

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His actions proved otherwise. So, those Republicans were wrong.

Please provide a list.

Selective prosecution and praising the KKK tend to show otherwise.

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The E wrote:
For someone who isn't racist, Trump has spent an awful lot of time signal boosting and hiring racists.

Basically, when the KKK and Neonazis think you're doing something right, it may be time to stop and think about whether or not the things you are doing are good ideas.

And they almost adore him...


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Daryl wrote:Must be skillful editing, if I can watch a continuous video of him speaking and see example after example of racist and bigoted comments. This is over a number of his speeches. Hate to say it, but if you don't notice them or consider them to be racist that says something about you as well.

Yeah, REALLY amzingly skillful editing considering that is what you see from live broadcasts...


It´s funny actually, we keep hearing from the "oh he´s horrible but he´s still the best choice!" people how much they dislike him, yet they´re still in complete denial about what he actually is, they somehow managed to carefully NOT hear everything obnoxious, nasty or stupid he has said repeatedly, loudly, even clarified again and again...


I don´t think i´ve ever seen such exceptionally strong idelogical blindfolds before. Religious levels of idolisation.
Someone who practically revels in being a nasty prick, and they just suck it up as "oh but he´s at least honest"... Uh yeah, except they then ignore what he said?

No, actually i have seen it before, but the only obvious comparisons are dictators, cult leaders and the like...

Please, show me the proof that will stand up in a court of law. What no proof...Please provide proof that will stand up in a US court of law of the charges of racism.

I will be happy to say that I was wrong. I voted for Trump and had misgivings but I would never have voted for HRC. So did any of you read any of the wiki leaks emails. What were your thoughts when you read the actual emails? Now The E, please be truthful and honorable in your reply because you have the tendency to misrepresent. (Remember when you said you read the book and then later admitted to skimming the book because the book was over 400 pages.)

By Stephanie Slade, "Rights cannot be just for those who will use them to uphold the values you agree with. They must also be for those who will take positions you can't fathom for reasons you can't stomach. Free association, and the freedom to live out your convictions expressively in how you make a living, cannot be reserved for rock stars and fashion designers and other powerful liberals, while being denied to regular Americans."

I included this quote because well I just thought the sentiments expressed so much on the Trump issue for either side.

Annachie wrote:

PeterZ wrote:
His actions proved otherwise. So, those Republicans were wrong.

Please provide a list.

Selective prosecution and praising the KKK tend to show otherwise.

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Putting a KKK murderer away for life is selective? Yeah, right. More progressive name calling here. It's ok to defend rapists, if they support your cause. No gossip is too vile to use against those who do not.

And now we have one more wonderful display of what kind of president Trump will be:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/trumps ... a-red-flag

"...he’s distinguished himself for being a strong supporter of mass surveillance and for thinking that using encryption, by itself, might be a sign that you’re a terrorist."

"He also wrote that the USA FREEDOM Act, the law that imposed new limits on the NSA’s bulk telephone records-gathering program, “gutted” the program and made America less safe."

"He also opposed closing Guantanamo and after a visit to the prison in 2013 he said that “a lot” of the prisoners who were on hunger strike looked like they “had put on weight.” And he condemned Muslim clerics for being silent on Islamic terrorism, which, he argued, made them “complicit” in the terrorist attacks."

Right, because christian priests always speak up against terrorism by christians...

And seriously, anyone who wants to retain Guantanamo is someone who probably should be jailed there himself.


"For all these reasons, the choice of Pompeo has left some in the intelligence community befuddled.

“None of us believe that a couple of years in the Army followed by sitting on a committee in Congress qualifies anyone for any position in the CIA, much less as the Director,” a former military officer who also worked in the intelligence community told Motherboard on condition of anonymity. “We believe that the ongoing nepotism used to select unqualified and in some cases, dangerous people for leadership in these key positions may well lead to a catastrophic failure for the United States.”"

Tenshinai your great on attacking people but where are the facts of racism that are could stand up in a court of law. Here's the facts, Europe can pay for its own defense against the Russians. The US can take some of that money and pay down the debt and rebuild America. If we have to go broke, we can endure the darkness until the new dawn comes. Make no mistake their is a darkness that is headed our way that none of us will escape its effects.

So, I take it that Tenshinai has not read any of wiki leaks emails by the great silence from you on this topic. This is most unlike you to be silent on HRC corruption and willful destruction of the email server and 18 other electronic devices. Not to mention the rigging of the Democratic primaries. Should not a good Socialist be complaining that Hilary stole the election from Bernie. What about Prjoect Veritas that exposed how the Democrats have been stealing numerous elections. Was that not recorded on tape! After donating 12 million dollars to the Clinton foundation, they were approved for a huge weapons deal through. Need I go further. This election was about voting against Hilary irregardless of who was her opponent. The funny thing was Hilary wanted to take on Donald Trump because she thought she would have an easier path to the WH. Lest we not forget the "deplorables!" comment. HRC claimed that they were broke when they left the WH. According to their taxes, the HRC and WJC are worth between 200 to 250 million dollars. Did not she just claim a couple of years ago that they were broke.

Tenshinai wrote:And now we have one more wonderful display of what kind of president Trump will be:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/trumps ... a-red-flag

"...he’s distinguished himself for being a strong supporter of mass surveillance and for thinking that using encryption, by itself, might be a sign that you’re a terrorist."

"He also wrote that the USA FREEDOM Act, the law that imposed new limits on the NSA’s bulk telephone records-gathering program, “gutted” the program and made America less safe."

"He also opposed closing Guantanamo and after a visit to the prison in 2013 he said that “a lot” of the prisoners who were on hunger strike looked like they “had put on weight.” And he condemned Muslim clerics for being silent on Islamic terrorism, which, he argued, made them “complicit” in the terrorist attacks."

Right, because christian priests always speak up against terrorism by christians...

And seriously, anyone who wants to retain Guantanamo is someone who probably should be jailed there himself.


"For all these reasons, the choice of Pompeo has left some in the intelligence community befuddled.

“None of us believe that a couple of years in the Army followed by sitting on a committee in Congress qualifies anyone for any position in the CIA, much less as the Director,” a former military officer who also worked in the intelligence community told Motherboard on condition of anonymity. “We believe that the ongoing nepotism used to select unqualified and in some cases, dangerous people for leadership in these key positions may well lead to a catastrophic failure for the United States.”"

Here's the facts, Europe can pay for its own defense against the Russians.

Funny thing about that you know, without USAs shenanigans, there would be absolutely nothing to defend against.

The US can take some of that money and pay down the debt and rebuild America.

No you cant. You don´t get it do you?
Being an empire means you must have the military to either enforce it, or to make it look like you can at least try.
Stop being an empire, and wow, suddenly you don´t get the freebies from being an empire, amazing!

The moment USA stops invading/coup-ing nations for not kowtowing to the petrodollar, the US$ would drop to maybe a tenth of its current value, and suddenly USA WOULD be broke.

If we have to go broke, we can endure the darkness until the new dawn comes.

While shooting yourself in the foot with a sawed off shotgun? Yeah, that works SO well.

So, I take it that Tenshinai has not read any of wiki leaks emails by the great silence from you on this topic.

Some, not all.

This is most unlike you to be silent on HRC corruption and willful destruction of the email server and 18 other electronic devices.

Her corruption is nothing amazing or new. The email crap is pretty much just rubbish, with only very limited relevancy, and not really worth bothering with.
The system she went with was the one created during GWBs regime, there was at least a dozen various IT staffers involved, noone in charge everyone convinced they knew how it was supposed to be run.

Seriously, those emails only shows ONE thing, and that is how laughably poorly organised the White House IT support was.

Not to mention the rigging of the Democratic primaries. Should not a good Socialist be complaining that Hilary stole the election from Bernie.

There probably was rigging, was it anything beyond the usual? Dont know yet. Bernie lost because media wanted him to loose, no rigging required.

And FYI, Bernie Sanders is definitely in no way what so ever a socialist. But he´s helluva lot more REALIST than any other candidates were, and it might have been nice to have a US president just for once who actually took, or at least TRIED to take responsibility.

What about Prjoect Veritas that exposed how the Democrats have been stealing numerous elections.

You like to roll in the media propaganda like a pig in muck.

Oh yes both big parties cheat and do voterigging like there´s no tomorrow.
But, the democrats tend to be lame compared to the reps.

Whenever i find out about a semiconfirmed or confirmed votefixing? About 2/3 of them are by republicans, however, if i make a list over the top 10 most extreme schemes for votefixing? The democrats doesn´t even get on to the list.

This election was about voting against Hilary irregardless of who was her opponent.

So, you would have happily voted for Pol Pot?

That is a VERY stupid stand to take. And of course, in retrospect i can safely say that that was EXACTLY what the rightwing media was trying to achieve all along, by for example making sure that Sanders was mostly excepted from media exposure.

Which reminds me, a little sanity check in regards to elections:
Germany vs USA.
Number of ads on TV by the two largest parties in Germany during their whole election campaign, 192 and 156 respectively.
USA 2012 election, there were 197603 ads, in just Florida.

I believe there´s something rotten, and it´s not in the state of Denmark.