What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.

Imaginos1892 wrote:

Dilandu wrote:To be precise, he directed them to shoot back if they would be attacked by stones & other things.

A rock is a deadly weapon. A 'protest sign' on a long, thick pole is a deadly weapon. A burning bottle of gasoline is EMPHATICALLY a deadly weapon. If a mob starts using such weapons against police, or soldiers, they sure as HELL should shoot back. After the first rock is thrown.

Try to target the instigators, but do whatever it takes to keep the mob from overrunning the police. At that point, it's self-defense.

If the instigators are caught, prosecute them for EVERY injury and death, including those among the 'protesters'.
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

Dilandu wrote:

gcomeau wrote:The president of the United States just publicly directed the US military to shoot unarmed civilians.

(No, having a rock does not make you "armed" under any US military rule of engagement that had existed before)

To be precise, he directed them to shoot back if they would be attacked by stones & other things.

gcomeau wrote:US military rules of engagement absolutely DO NOT authorize use of deadly force against civilians throwing freaking rocks. For mind numbingly obvious reasons.

Imaginos1892 wrote:

gcomeau wrote:US military rules of engagement absolutely DO NOT authorize use of deadly force against civilians throwing freaking rocks. For mind numbingly obvious reasons.

That is an abysmally stupid rule, that encourages rioting mobs to throw rocks at our soldiers. Tell you what, go stand against a wall while a mob of rioting assholes throw rocks at you, and see if you are still opposed to fighting back.

If you survive.
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It takes two to make peace. It only takes one to make war.

gcomeau wrote:Tell you what, find me a several thousand strong unit of armed to the fucking teeth professional soldiers that is the equivalent of some guy "standing against a wall" while unarmed civilians throw rocks at them first.

Imaginos1892 wrote:

gcomeau wrote:Tell you what, find me a several thousand strong unit of armed to the fucking teeth professional soldiers that is the equivalent of some guy "standing against a wall" while unarmed civilians throw rocks at them first.

They don't throw rocks at several-thousand-strong military units, though. They surround a small squad of half a dozen soldiers and throw hundreds of rocks at them. Try to wrap your mind around something other than your own preconception that the US is always wrong.

Imaginos1892 wrote:

gcomeau wrote:Tell you what, find me a several thousand strong unit of armed to the fucking teeth professional soldiers that is the equivalent of some guy "standing against a wall" while unarmed civilians throw rocks at them first.

They don't throw rocks at several-thousand-strong military units, though. They surround a small squad of half a dozen soldiers and throw hundreds of rocks at them. Try to wrap your mind around something other than your own preconception that the US is always wrong.
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I used to live on a farm. I know what bullshit smells like.

• Voter suppression, just look at the shenanigans Brian Kemp is up to.
• That Trump said that the pipe bomber helped stopping the Democratic momentum.
• That Trump said that the synagogue shooting helped stopping the Democratic momentum.
• That both events above was triggered by Trumps rhetoric.
• That 4 white supremacists was indicted for inciting violence at California political rallies (from the same group that incited the riot in Charlottesville).
• The debt is increasing rapidly
• The stock market is taking a hammering
• Sucking up to Saudi Arabia
• The Mueller investigation

Imaginos1892 wrote:So, you want the squad to stand there with their thumbs up their asses and be murdered by a rock-throwing mob?

Earlier in the day, before Trump’s incendiary comments about rocks and rifles, retired Rear Adm. John Kirby said the fact is the troops who will be supporting civilian Customs and Border Protection personnel won't be interacting directly with migrants. “Trump is not being honest with the American people about what these troops are going to be doing,” said Kirby on CNN, where he is now a paid contributor. “When he talks about them, he creates this word picture for people that these troops are going to be hurling back invaders at the border, side-by-side with the border patrol. That's just not the case. In fact, many of them will never even get close to the border. They're supply people, medical support. They're going to be building tents and temporary housing facilities. They're going to be freeing up the border patrol to do their job a little more. They're not allowed to get into law enforcement issues.”