US Presidential Candidates

Tenshinai wrote:Very little chance of really doing anything except maybe get Trump elected more easily, but even that might help show off just how badly the system works as it is.

Seems moot anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/11/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democratic-platform-negotiations

I still want to know how, out of a field of almost 40 candidates at this time last year, we wound up with the two absolute worst of the whole bunch.
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Why do so many idiots believe that the way to solve our problems is to keep electing the same shitheads that caused them?

Shietheads? No argument there. Once again as a voter in every election since the age of 22, I again am faced with the lessor of two evils.

But .... in this case while both candidates are shietty choices, one is much less shietty than the other. I don't like it, but will be voting for Trump.

I mean I really don't like it, but the other choice does not even enter the discussion. Ever wonder WHY we are given shietty choices for President?

The USA President is your choice and primarily impacts on you. Just the same, outsiders would probably prefer Clinton as she is less likely to do something dramatically stupid internationally. Mind you there is a certain amount of interest in what would happen when Boris met Donald (WW3 or a love in).

HB of CJ wrote:Shietheads? No argument there. Once again as a voter in every election since the age of 22, I again am faced with the lessor of two evils.

But .... in this case while both candidates are shietty choices, one is much less shietty than the other. I don't like it, but will be voting for Trump.

I mean I really don't like it, but the other choice does not even enter the discussion. Ever wonder WHY we are given shietty choices for President?

HB of CJ wrote:Shietheads? No argument there. Once again as a voter in every election since the age of 22, I again am faced with the lessor of two evils.

But .... in this case while both candidates are shietty choices, one is much less shietty than the other. I don't like it, but will be voting for Trump.

I mean I really don't like it, but the other choice does not even enter the discussion. Ever wonder WHY we are given shietty choices for President?

You find the answer to your last question in the bolded part.


How anyone can believe Trump to be the lesser evil is just astonishing.

Hilary isn´t even in the same league as him.
Heck, even GWB isn´t in the same league as Trump. And he was without any doubt THE worst president USA has ever had.

HB of CJ wrote:Shietheads? No argument there. Once again as a voter in every election since the age of 22, I again am faced with the lessor of two evils.

But .... in this case while both candidates are shietty choices, one is much less shietty than the other. I don't like it, but will be voting for Drumpf.

I mean I really don't like it, but the other choice does not even enter the discussion. Ever wonder WHY we are given shietty choices for President?

I have spent the last 13 years working in vehicle dealerships and Trump has all the characteristics of a used car salesman. He over promises and will no doubt under-deliver. He is constantly mind gaming his "customers", and adjusts his message to whatever he thinks will get him the sale (election) because he has no firm principles of his own. Look at the man, not the message, because the message is marketing flim-flam.

No one argues against this. The argument is that the alternative is worse than a flim-flam. So, for thos in the US who like to prospect of an institutionalized corrupt corporate capitalism, by all means support Clinton. I understand that foreign interests prefer her because she is clearly open to monetary persuasion via her family's foundation and has gained the tacit support of our federal LE agencies in her corrupt endeavors.

Trump is trying to organize a more US centric cabal of moneyed interests. His flim-flam would have us believe that our ills can be cured at the expense of foreign interests. It cannot. Fixing our social and economic ills will be painful and that pain cannot be shuffled off to foreigners. Fixing our problems won't be painless even if he adopts to the optimal solutions. I doubt the solutions will be optimal by a long shot.

Sheity options indeed! I'll go for the option that is least likely to result in an institutionalized corrupt corporate capitalism in the service of globalism at the expense of the American people and its sovereignty.

dscott8 wrote:

HB of CJ wrote:Shietheads? No argument there. Once again as a voter in every election since the age of 22, I again am faced with the lessor of two evils.

But .... in this case while both candidates are shietty choices, one is much less shietty than the other. I don't like it, but will be voting for Drumpf.

I mean I really don't like it, but the other choice does not even enter the discussion. Ever wonder WHY we are given shietty choices for President?

I have spent the last 13 years working in vehicle dealerships and Trump has all the characteristics of a used car salesman. He over promises and will no doubt under-deliver. He is constantly mind gaming his "customers", and adjusts his message to whatever he thinks will get him the sale (election) because he has no firm principles of his own. Look at the man, not the message, because the message is marketing flim-flam.

PeterZ wrote:Sheity options indeed! I'll go for the option that is least likely to result in an institutionalized corrupt corporate capitalism in the service of globalism at the expense of the American people and its sovereignty.

Surprised to see such a strong endorsement of Hillary Clinton from you

The E wrote:

PeterZ wrote:Sheity options indeed! I'll go for the option that is least likely to result in an institutionalized corrupt corporate capitalism in the service of globalism at the expense of the American people and its sovereignty.

Surprised to see such a strong endorsement of Hillary Clinton from you

Indeed. While Clinton has fallen prey to this corruption Peter Z speaks of Trump is one of its primary purveyors.

LOL! Whoever said lefty progs don't have a sense of humor is all wet. Clinton is to corruption what Henry Ford was to the assembly line. Trump is simply a skilled artisan at corruption, not the leading light of its mass production.

If for no other reason than the lefty/proggy press will scream bloody murder when he tries to engane in corruption. A goodly chunk of the Democrat party as well as the press have proven that they will overlook Clinton's abuse of power. They have also proven that they will condemn Trump for even a semblance of impropriety.

Let me see.... have a corrupt politician with a press corp. complicit in covering up that corruption or one that has an antagonistic press corp.....let me see....which to choose....so difficult.... NOT!

gcomeau wrote:

The E wrote:Surprised to see such a strong endorsement of Hillary Clinton from you

Indeed. While Clinton has fallen prey to this corruption Peter Z speaks of Trump is one of its primary purveyors.