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Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The Land

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Spacekiwi   » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:59 am

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Thats a really scary nightmare........ 4 Mother in laws? One is supposed to be bad enough. (Shudders)






pokermind wrote:Could be worse if both parents are Bigamists could be four mothers in law. The curse goes up with polygamy and polyandry exponentially :lol:
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by jchilds   » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:04 am

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Spacekiwi wrote:Thats a really scary nightmare........ 4 Mother in laws? One is supposed to be bad enough. (Shudders)






pokermind wrote:Could be worse if both parents are Bigamists could be four mothers in law. The curse goes up with polygamy and polyandry exponentially :lol:


It can get worse. Someone could marry sisters and then divorce one. They'd have someone who is simultaneously a mother-in-law and an ex-mother-in-law. Oh, wait - isn't that an upcoming reality show? :roll:
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Spacekiwi   » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:10 pm

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So, you get her mad by divorcing a daughter, then invite her to the wedding of the other daughter? that shouyld go down well..... XD

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It can get worse. Someone could marry sisters and then divorce one. They'd have someone who is simultaneously a mother-in-law and an ex-mother-in-law. Oh, wait - isn't that an upcoming reality show? :roll:
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Annachie   » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:36 pm

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But that is defined by the bible as incest and against God's law.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Imaginos1892   » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:02 pm

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Annachie wrote:But that is defined by the bible as incest and against God's law.

1. That's stupid. He's no more closely related to her. If marrying the first wife was not incest, neither is marrying her sister.

2. The United States is not a theocracy, despite the efforts of some misguided individuals to make it one. Our laws are derived from the Constitution, not one particular collection of Bronze Age fables.

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how that ruling diminishes their rights or limits their freedom. "Waaaaah! The Gummint won't stop Those People from doing Those Things and I don't like it!" is not a valid response.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Annachie   » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:51 am

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I'm not disagreeing with you one bit Imaginos. Not one bit.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by pokermind   » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:47 am

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The problem is simple, the word "marriage" it has both civil and religious meanings. Until recently marriage was a purely religious function, a joining solemnized by one's religious leaders. As time went on civil marriages conducted by a governmental official came into being. Later states issued licenses the contract not finished by signature of either a religious officiator or civil official preforming the ceremony is on the document. As our society has become more secular fewer church weddings occur, and the religious component of marriage has been minimized in our society.

However Marriage among religious people retains strong religious meaning and definition, IE between a man and a women only. I have no problem with gay civil unions, I do have a problem referring to such a union by a religious term that the major religions define as being between heterosexual couples only. Misquoting Bill Shakespeare "The problem dear liberals is not gay rights, but using a religious term for a civil union."

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Oops forgot to mention some churches now embracing gay marriage thus we are seeing a difference between liberal and conservative churches too.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:57 am

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Au contrare, only among Christians has "marriage"
ever been "a purely religious function."
For the rest of us (2/3rds of all humans),
"Marriage" has always been a civil function, which
might or might not have religious overtones,
but is controlled by civil law.

For example, among us Jews, marriage ceremonies are
performed by rabbis in their capacity as judges,
not by kohanams (Priests).

I'll let members of other religions post for themselves.

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pokermind wrote:The problem is simple, the word "marriage"
it has both civil and religious meanings.
Until recently marriage was a purely religious
function, a joining solemnized by one's
religious leaders.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by The E   » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:01 pm

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Insisting that among all the words in the English language, "marriage" is the one that has a completely and irrevocably fixed meaning is all sorts of funny.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Same-Sex Marriage To Be Law Of The L
Post by Tenshinai   » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:13 pm

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pokermind wrote:The problem is simple, the word "marriage" it has both civil and religious meanings. Until recently marriage was a purely religious function, a joining solemnized by one's religious leaders.


Practically never been true. Only when religious marriage was not recognised at all by the state was it a purely religious matter.
A very rare state of affairs.
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