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Impeachment now certain
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by TFLYTSNBN
» Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:21 pm
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No witnesses!
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by Annachie
» Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:13 pm
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So you agree that Trump is guilty too? After all, why else would you chear about an eye witness not being called? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You are so going to die. :p ~~~~ runsforcelery ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ still not dead.  |
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by Annachie
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:28 am
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by Daryl
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:28 am
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Really beyond belief that they (Republican Senators) could do this, but history won't be kind.
Possibly could end up for the best, as an impeachment would have been viewed by the "deplorables", as the swamp got our hero. Whereas if he is voted out, then once he is no longer President he can face criminal charges, just like any other private citizen. However from a distance I do wonder if those same "deplorables" won't still vote him in again despite all his baggage. |
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by Michael Everett
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:26 am
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The problem is that the Democrats thought the same thing and repeatedly said so starting from the week he was first elected. Because of this, many people believed that it wasn't about whether Trump had done anything wrong or not, it was about the fact that he got into the Oval Office instead of Hillary and the Democrats reacted in a manner befitting a two-year-old denied a sweet, screeching "Orange man bad!" at every opportunity. Or simply screeching. Given that the Impeachment Express started well before any proof could be found (or indeed, before Trump had a chance to do more than unpack his bags), it became indelibly stained with the scent of "Sore losers" and "Wokeness". This undermined a large proportion of what the Democrats pushing for Impeachment wished to achieve and, combined with the Democrat's truly awe-inspiring inability to unite behind a single nominee for this year's election, removed their credibility in the eyes of many. I'm not saying Trump has not done anything wrong, but the entire Impeachment process was flawed almost from the start due to the lack of professionalism amongst those pushing most eagerly to remove Trump from office by any and all means possible. They may have been right from a legal viewpoint, but they made far too many mistakes in the court of public opinion which in the end, was the only one which really counted. Of course, some people think that Trump is Earth's version of Zaphod Beeblebrox (Hoopy Frood), occupying the highest office in order to divert attention away from the bureaucrats who actually run the country... in which case, the Impeachment Circus has gone completely to plan. ~~~~~~
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by The E
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:15 am
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That's wrong, though. Like with almost every other instance of Trump breaking or bending the law, it was done in the open. Specifically, with Trump's refusal to divest himself from the Trump Corporation, all but inviting people to give him money more or less directly (which was later corroborated when he couldn't understand why he should sanction Saudi-Arabia when they're such good customers of his). Further, with every trip to Mar-a-Lago, the Trump Government dropped tons of money into a Trump property, which is as blatant an example of corruption as you could hope for.
They didn't, though. A majority of the US public supported impeachment, supported the calling of witnesses and having an actual trial instead of this farce that happened now. Hell, you have GOP Senators lining up to say, basically, "Yes, everything the Democrats allege is actually true, but we can't impeach because [reasons]". The Senate is the institution actually ignoring public opinion here. |
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by n7axw
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:08 pm
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Actually, the court of public opinion seems to be pretty evenly split with a slight edge in favor of impeachment and removal. I actually think that Republicans should have orchestrated the impeachment back when they controlled the House. There certainly was enough stuff going on or had happened to provide grounds. There have been people on the left calling for impeachment for a long time. But the idea didn't gain steam until the Ukraine thing came up. On our side we had visions of another election compromised by foreign interference welcomed or even solicited by Trump. I know that my own first reaction was, "the blanketyblank is doing it again!" Look, Michael, I want the president, be he Democrat or Republican, to at bare minimum give the appearance of being an honest, upright man, not a Mafia chief. I want to be able to assume that he has the best interests of the country at heart rather than his own financial or political interests. Donald Trump comes up short in all of that. His failure to respect the law, his hostility toward anyone who has the courage to disagree with him, and much more have made our already serious problems worse, not better. Don - When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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by smr
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:02 pm
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Possibly the Impeachment will be wiped out by who....
Yeah, the record could be cleared by the Supreme Court. The articles are being challenged in Court for legality. Oh that would so infuriate certain forum posters if Trump's Impeachment is removed from the Record. Someone call 911 because Nancy Pelosi and Gcomeau are having a heart attacks because the Impeachment could be removed from the Records! |
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by Annachie
» Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:30 pm
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I can only assume that Trump likes to see his lawyers laughed out of court by the judges. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You are so going to die. :p ~~~~ runsforcelery ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ still not dead. |
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by smr
» Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:25 am
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Their already litigating the legitimacy of the Impeachment articles. What you thought the Demoncrats were being serious with the Impeachment Articles...no this was a show trial. Why did they not use what the Mueller report uncovered?
1) 2 of 4 Fisa Warrants have been ruled illegal. Also, DOJ is awaiting the verdict on the other 2 FISA warrants. All that information would be invalid. If their was evidence of wrong doing, the evidence would have been thrown out. (Fruit of the poisonous Tree) 2) No evidence that could be used against Trump for Impeachment was found in the Mueller Report. 3) The biggest hint that the Demoncrats were not serious about Impeachment. The Demoncrats would have followed every procedure, precedent, and legal standard. So that Trump could not squirm out of the Impeachment.
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