TFLYTSNBN wrote: Australia is contemplating aquiring nukes because they fear that President Trump will not commit conventional forces much less use nukes to defend Australia from invasion or nuclear attack.
...It is basically what Daryl said.
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Dilandu
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...It is basically what Daryl said. ------------------------------
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smr
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I have to totally disagree with your personal take. The problem is the Demoncrats accuse anyone and everyone of Racism if they do not totally support their position. Prime example is the Freshman four accusing Pelosi of Racism a week or so ago. The Demoncrats scream Racism so much that the word has lost all meaning with the voters. It's like when Gcomeau daily complaint about Trump. Orange man bad! While he puts on black antifa uniform to protest Trump and the merry band of digital warriors. Meanwhile the OstrichFuhrer ala TheE is getting out his Red Brigade Uniforms to Protest Trump for the Fake News Media.
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TFLYTSNBN
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Do you understand what a profound paradigm shift that is? Why should the Australians be angry with Trump for being the first POTUS in 70+ years that has rejected the Cold War presumption that America is willing to fight a nuclear war to defend an "ally?" |
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Daryl
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I do need to clarify that Australia isn't considering nukes. The only change is that a few commentators have mentioned the possibility, which is a change. Long way from a serious government decision yet.
As to why we have expected support from the US, there are several valid reasons. Firstly we have supported the US in more of its military adventures than have any other country. The size of our commitment may have been comparatively small, but it did provide some political legitimacy, and our soldiers tend to be used at the pointy end. Secondly, we are an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the southern hemisphere, that the US depends on for spy and military bases. Thirdly we have reserves of strategic materials like rare earths, that China may embargo from the US. We are not passengers expecting big brother to rescue us, but active partners, and Trump's rhetoric is causing some concern. quote="TFLYTSNBN"]
Do you understand what a profound paradigm shift that is? Why should the Australians be angry with Trump for being the first POTUS in 70+ years that has rejected the Cold War presumption that America is willing to fight a nuclear war to defend an "ally?"[/quote] |
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Eyal
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Ironically the same argument would make Trump (immigrant mother and immigrant paternal grandparents) unAmerican ss well. |
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Daryl
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But white?
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gcomeau
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That America's traditional longstanding allies no longer view the United States as a DEPENDABLE partner that can be trusted to stand by them when it is needed? Yes TFLY, we all get how profound a shift that is. |
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edgeworthy
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I'm not sure that the Trump Family qualify as White, at least certainly not Donald. Which leads to the possibility that the Trumps were Illegal Immigrants themselves, after all the US Government has never officially recognised Loompa-Land, and has no formal diplomatic relations.
As far as I can tell the US Constitution contains no provision for an Oompa-Loompa to legally aquire citizenship. So it might be that Donald Trump was never in fact eligible to run for office? |
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TFLYTSNBN
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That's racist. |
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