The E wrote:n7axw wrote:Gracious man, you are acting like a right winger... Significant legislation wasn't passed then either because of the fillibuster. Almost everything takes 60 votes in the Senate. There are exceptions for financial stuff that I don't have a handle on which is how the tax bill that was the giveaway for the wealthy got through. But not much else. Republicans didn't even manage to get rid of Obama care which was their signature issue.
It's a matter of principle for me. Saying that you disavow Trump is easy; especially if you're praised for just doing that and there is little to no scrutiny to what you're actually doing about it. If you're claiming that Trump and his policies are a danger, but do not also start working against Trump's support structure in the GOP, then you're just a smidge hypocritical.
And, well.... standing up to Trump is great. Good job. But that doesn't change the fact that Trump could only exist because these people, in years and decades prior, have created the environment that Trump now exists in. Remember Romney's bullshit about how most americans are just passively taking money from the state and how "only 40% pay income taxes"? A soundbite so openly misleading that it could have come right from Trump's mouth?
Actually it was 48%. That doesn't make it look better, does it?
All of the rest of what you say if true. Romney is a rich guy with a silver spoon shoved up his arse with far too much of a sense of his own entitlement.
But... things are never that simple. As governor of Massachusetts, he was the one who initiated Romneycare with is a healthcare program upon which Obamacare is modeled. He is a Mormon bishop who generously supports charity. Furthermore he doesn't spend time bragging about it. In short, he is more than a self-entitled rich Republican.
Look, I am gratified to find people on the other side of the fence willing to affirm the values of liberal democracy and the rule of law. Given what the Republican Party has become, that should be celebrated not dissed. Look, E, I am not disagreeing with your basic points. But it seems to me that you are conflating two different discussions here. Even apart from the disaster that the Trump era represents, I would oppose Romney's politics. I certainly don't advocate voting for the man.
Don
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