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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by Joat42   » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:55 pm

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smr wrote:What law did he break? If he broke the law, please link to the evidence.


GAO wrote:President Trump violated the Impoundment Control Act by unilaterally withholding $214 million of legislatively appropriated Defense Department aid for Ukraine without obtaining authorization from Congress. "Faithful execution of the law does not permit the president to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law," the Government Accountability Office concluded.

United States Code, 2006 Edition, Supplement 5, Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE wrote:18 U.S. Code § 872: "Extortion by officers or employees of the United States."

"Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

United States Code, 2006 Edition, Supplement 5, Title 2 - THE CONGRESS wrote:2 U.S. Code § 192, "Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers"

United States Code, 2006 Edition, Supplement 5, Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE wrote:18 U.S. Code § 610, "Coercion of political activity."


Take your pick...

And answer us this, how do you feel about the fact that according to Trump he can do whatever he wants since the law doesn't apply to him?

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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by Annachie   » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:33 pm

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Joat, et al.

When you ask what laws has Trump broken I assume you mean for us to ignore the ones that have already been fore the courts and found guilty of?

Such as the Trump university fraud, the Trump charity fraud, etc.
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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:00 pm

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Actually, it was British intelligence that attempted to hack the election by fabricating the Steele dossier that purported to prove that Russia hacked the election.

Did it occur to any of you foreigners that post on this forum that you are attempting to hack the election by persuading American voters to vote Democrat?
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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by Joat42   » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:20 pm

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Annachie wrote:Joat, et al.

When you ask what laws has Trump broken I assume you mean for us to ignore the ones that have already been fore the courts and found guilty of?

Such as the Trump university fraud, the Trump charity fraud, etc.

I didn't ask what laws Trump broke, smr did.

And I didn't bother to mention the multitudes of prior stuff Trump did before becoming president since we are talking about the impeachment. It's kind of a long list.

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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by Joat42   » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:32 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Actually, it was British intelligence that attempted to hack the election by fabricating the Steele dossier that purported to prove that Russia hacked the election.

Oh, funny that since most of the stuff in the dossier was independently verified and people from Trumps campaign actually went to prison over it.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Did it occur to any of you foreigners that post on this forum that you are attempting to hack the election by persuading American voters to vote Democrat?

Nobody has been trying to persuade anyone to vote Democrat, most people have just pointed out how gullible you are to believe in any kind of stupid lie that fits your very narrow worldview.

And if we "foreigners" somehow manage to influence American voters to vote democrat from this small forum, how much easier wasn't it for Russia to fool the gullible masses to vote for Trump in the last election.

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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by Annachie   » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:15 pm

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Sorry there Joat.

Although, since I believe both those verdicts were during Trump's Presidency even if the original acts weren't, they are impeachable offences.
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Re: While we're distracted by the impeachment....
Post by n7axw   » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:14 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Actually, it was British intelligence that attempted to hack the election by fabricating the Steele dossier that purported to prove that Russia hacked the election.

Did it occur to any of you foreigners that post on this forum that you are attempting to hack the election by persuading American voters to vote Democrat?


The Steele dossier was not fabricated, at least not knowingly. Steele's project began at the behest of a Republican candidate (don't remember which one) and then once Trump was nominated was taken over by Democrats. Steele himself estimated that he thought that about 70% of it was accurate. And parts of it were corraborated. The relevant point is that one doesn't take something like the dossier as unquestioned truth. Rather one tries to corroborate or deny it. It points toward possible lines of investigation.

Steele himself was working for a private firm. He had a background in British intelligence. But was not working for them when he was given this project., or at least there was no evidence to suggest that he was that is out in the open.

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