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To Challenge Heaven (Out of the Dark Book 3) 1/16/24

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Re: To Challenge Heaven (Out of the Dark Book 3) 1/16/24
Post by Robert_A_Woodward   » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:55 am

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It is up on the Apple iBooks store as well. Downloaded and read it. It is shorter than the first 2 books in the series.
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Re: To Challenge Heaven (Out of the Dark Book 3) 1/16/24
Post by phillies   » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:02 pm

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Tregonsee wrote:Dropped on Kindle yesterday evening. Ruined a good night's sleep. :D


I received the hardback yesterday and read it. It was a bit thinner than a traditional Weber novel, but it was as always well-written.
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Re: To Challenge Heaven (Out of the Dark Book 3) 1/16/24
Post by Tregonsee   » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:48 am

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I received the hardback yesterday and read it. It was a bit thinner than a traditional Weber novel, but it was as always well-written.[/quote]

By RFC's standards, a short story. It did nicely tie up a lot of loose ends, while leaving the possibility of a later book should time, health, and interest permit.
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Re: To Challenge Heaven (Out of the Dark Book 3) 1/16/24
Post by ecortez   » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:16 pm

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Tregonsee wrote:By RFC's standards, a short story. It did nicely tie up a lot of loose ends, while leaving the possibility of a later book should time, health, and interest permit.


I doubt he would've done three books only to stop at this point in the story. If necessary the series could be concluded with one oversized book covering what happens when the Terrans and the Hegemony finally clash head-on. Backstory like what happened to the fifth founding race could be revealed and everything tied up. They should at least do that much.
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Post by Keith_w   » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:18 am

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Tregonsee wrote:I received the hardback yesterday and read it. It was a bit thinner than a traditional Weber novel, but it was as always well-written.


By RFC's standards, a short story. It did nicely tie up a lot of loose ends, while leaving the possibility of a later book should time, health, and interest permit.[/quote]

I was not impressed.
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Post by fallsfromtrees   » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:33 am

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ecortez wrote:
Tregonsee wrote:By RFC's standards, a short story. It did nicely tie up a lot of loose ends, while leaving the possibility of a later book should time, health, and interest permit.


I doubt he would've done three books only to stop at this point in the story. If necessary the series could be concluded with one oversized book covering what happens when the Terrans and the Hegemony finally clash head-on. Backstory like what happened to the fifth founding race could be revealed and everything tied up. They should at least do that much.

It should be clear that the fifth race was not exterminated, but managed to go into hiding. Thaeyvhad to have been the ones you set up the cave that Vlad stumbled into, and they could not have done that in the middle of the last ice age (75000 yrs ago). Ergo some of them are still around and set the cave up after the first survey. There is still a lot of story left on the bone in the series.
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Re: To Challenge Heaven (Out of the Dark Book 3) 1/16/24
Post by Joat42   » Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:33 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:It should be clear that the fifth race was not exterminated, but managed to go into hiding. Thaeyvhad to have been the ones you set up the cave that Vlad stumbled into, and they could not have done that in the middle of the last ice age (75000 yrs ago). Ergo some of them are still around and set the cave up after the first survey. There is still a lot of story left on the bone in the series.

Considering their apparent level of technology, setting up a base during an ice age should be easy.

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