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Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Joat42   » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:43 am

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I'm trying to find stories which focuses on rebooting technology after global disaster/war/the fall etc, preferably focused on the reboot rather than the drama around it.

Anyone have any good suggestions?

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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Weird Harold   » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:51 pm

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Joat42 wrote:I'm trying to find stories which focuses on rebooting technology after global disaster/war/the fall etc, preferably focused on the reboot rather than the drama around it.

Anyone have any good suggestions?


S.M. Stirling's Novels of the Change; Island in the Sea of Time and the others in that portion of the universe deal with the use/redevelopment of modern technology in a pre-roman time frame.

The Ring of Fire/Assiti Shards/1632/Grantville shared universe has a lot of "technology re-boot" entries.

There are a lot of amateur fiction online that deal with time travel and/or post apocalyptic survival tech; some is very good and some is "worth what you pay for it."
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Joat42   » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:45 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
Joat42 wrote:I'm trying to find stories which focuses on rebooting technology after global disaster/war/the fall etc, preferably focused on the reboot rather than the drama around it.

Anyone have any good suggestions?


S.M. Stirling's Novels of the Change; Island in the Sea of Time and the others in that portion of the universe deal with the use/redevelopment of modern technology in a pre-roman time frame.

The Ring of Fire/Assiti Shards/1632/Grantville shared universe has a lot of "technology re-boot" entries.

There are a lot of amateur fiction online that deal with time travel and/or post apocalyptic survival tech; some is very good and some is "worth what you pay for it."

Maybe I should have described it better, ie. recovering tech because it was lost due to any number of reasons and then only existed as stories and/or myth plus some books tucked away which describes it.

In both Stirlings and Flints universes they didn't really loose the tech, they just lost their "industrial base" which they had to reboot.

In a sense one type of story I'm looking for could be Safehold minus the church and the ban on innovation, ie. colonists waking up with no memory etc.

There are a lot of dystopian stories describing the fall of humanity/high tech empires etc, but there are very few books telling how they later rebuilt what they lost without glossing over the reboot, ie "It took nearly 150 years after the fall before they reclaimed their birthright and went back into space again.". In other words, the interesting part of the story isn't usually told.

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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Weird Harold   » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:22 pm

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Joat42 wrote:Maybe I should have described it better, ie. recovering tech because it was lost due to any number of reasons and then only existed as stories and/or myth plus some books tucked away which describes it.

In both Stirlings and Flints universes they didn't really loose the tech, they just lost their "industrial base" which they had to reboot.


I think you described it OK, we just have different views about how well Stirling and Flint fit your description. :p

In the Nanucket half of Stirling's Change novels, the protagonists are trying to reboot technology without the manuals before they lose what technology came with them. In the Dies the Fire the protagonists have to drop back a couple of centuries with only museum pieces and historical reenactors as guides. In both cases they have to go back to first principles and re-learn how old, lost, technology works.

Grantville, OTOH has a good library and lots of residual tech, but they're having to go back a century or so for the beginnings of modern tech and building from there.

Still, most of what you want is going to be found online at amateur story sites (often mislabeled as sex-story sites, because they don't close-the-bedroom door in serious stories and you might have to wade through a bunch of stroke stories to find the serious stories.) I don't think what you're looking for really exists, though; few authors know enough about technology to make it more than the background for character-driven stories.

I'm not a fan of Stephen King, but I think his Dark Tower series is set in a dystopian future where most technology is archaeological.
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Daryl   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:42 pm

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Eric Flint's Belisarius series has the adaptation of future tech into Roman times. Harry Turtledove's World War has adaption of future tech into WW2 times, and Steve Stirling's Draka has similar.

Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series has adaption of "magic" psi tech to a lost space colony, as does Anne McCaffrey's dragon series.
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Weird Harold   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:04 pm

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Daryl wrote:Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series has adaption of "magic" psi tech to a lost space colony,


I don't think Darkover is even close to JOAT's description of what he wants.

Daryl wrote:as does Anne McCaffrey's dragon series.


The later Pern books however are almost exactly what was requested -- From the White Dragon and later when they're dealing with AIVAS. Earlier than that, PERN is predominantly "fantasy adventure" in character even though it is technically science fiction.
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Daryl   » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:10 am

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Good premise for interesting stories, although I wonder if the invention of the printing press hasn't made it unlikely. No matter how bad the disaster some printed information should survive. Only if fanatics were able to deliberately get rid of everything would it all be lost.
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Rugdumph   » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:07 pm

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I cannot think of any that really focus on that subject, but for a few that touch on the rediscovery aspect of it...

King David's Spaceship, Jerry Pournelle
Orphans of the Sky, Robert Heinlein
A Canticle for Leibowitz, Walter M Miller
Empire of the Atom, A E van Vogt
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:24 am

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You do know that it is the "drama" that makes the "story"
don't you? :o Otherwise it is a mere technology manual.

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Joat42 wrote:I'm trying to find stories which focuses on rebooting technology after global disaster/war/the fall etc, preferably focused on the reboot rather than the drama around it.

Anyone have any good suggestions?
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Re: Looking for "tech reboot" books
Post by Joat42   » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:48 pm

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Howard T. Map-addict wrote:You do know that it is the "drama" that makes the "story" don't you? :o Otherwise it is a mere technology manual.

HTM

Yes and no, most books gloss over the tech and just describes it in very general terms - ie. handwavium.

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