The Information Age

The information age has many advantages. There are some disadvantages also: One needs to make a decision to look for evidence for theories that you don't already accept. Of course, that has always been true, it is just that search engines make it too easy to narrow a subject down to where we don't find the unexpected as often


Professor Andrew Reiner seems to have spotted another.
Worth Reading:

http://www.breakpoint.org/bpcommentarie ... NTM0MDQ2S0

Also, a Thanksgiving special:

http://www.breakpoint.org/bpcommentarie ... NjM3ODgyS0

And a Brass Hat special:

http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/ ... e-internet

DDHv wrote:The information age has many advantages. There are some disadvantages also: One needs to make a decision to look for evidence for theories that you don't already accept. Of course, that has always been true, it is just that search engines make it too easy to narrow a subject down to where we don't find the unexpected as often


Professor Andrew Reiner seems to have spotted another.
Worth Reading:

http://www.breakpoint.org/bpcommentarie ... NTM0MDQ2S0

Also, a Thanksgiving special:

http://www.breakpoint.org/bpcommentarie ... NjM3ODgyS0

Nice post. Good reading. I'm part Native American, by the way.

I personally hate the term Native American. Lacks originality.

TN4994 wrote:
I personally hate the term Native American. Lacks originality.

You don't like it? Try attending a pauau. That's a bag of worms we do NOT want to open.

cthia wrote:

TN4994 wrote:
I personally hate the term Native American. Lacks originality.

You don't like it? Try attending a pauau. That's a bag of worms we do NOT want to open.

Okay, I looked up the definition of pauau. It seems to be a celebration of life in the spring time, so why is it a can of worms we don't want to open? (He says with his can opener in hand )

cthia wrote:

TN4994 wrote:
I personally hate the term Native American. Lacks originality.

You don't like it? Try attending a pauau. That's a bag of worms we do NOT want to open.

I don't like it, because it is incorrect.
Anyone born in the area called the Americas are also native Americans. But some think-tank thought it was appropriate for the first tribal peoples. Aboriginal or Indigenous Americans should be preferred because both refer to the first people to live in the Americas.
In the country called the United States of America, anyone born in the states or US territories is a Native (of the area or land) American and a citizen of the country. Those born of American Citizens are Natural (from nature, as in natural selection) Born Americans.
It's really very simple, unless you're a politician or someone paid to support a political agenda.

cthia wrote:

TN4994 wrote:
I personally hate the term Native American. Lacks originality.

You don't like it? Try attending a pauau. That's a bag of worms we do NOT want to open.

TN4994 wrote:I don't like it, because it is incorrect.
Anyone born in the area called the Americas are also native Americans. But some think-tank thought it was appropriate for the first tribal peoples. Aboriginal or Indigenous Americans should be preferred because both refer to the first people to live in the Americas.
In the country called the United States of America, anyone born in the states or US territories is a Native (of the area or land) American and a citizen of the country. Those born of American Citizens are Natural (from nature, as in natural selection) Born Americans.
It's really very simple, unless you're a politician or someone paid to support a political agenda.

Again ... if you don't like the term, imagine the turmoil in the hearts of Tribal Indians. As suggested, if you can get yourself invited to a private pauau, you'll learn of that first hand. Tribal Indians of America, prefer neither Native or American because either contains inherent concession of identity and 'spiritual' ownership of lands.

Tribal Indians of America is better. But only marginally so. It is a sore spot within the tribes (each tribe) itself.

Compounding the issue is the need to assume "Native American" to be federally recognized, a fight that had been raging for decades. Only, as of recent, yielding fruit. The problem is further complicated by the fact that there are over 250 languages of "Native Americans" and an uncounted number of dialects. And the fact that much of American history of "Native Americans", is just that. Hisstory.

Like the American version of Pocahontas. What a joke.

And it goes much much deeper into unseen areas, on your part, than that, Unless you are "Native American" yourself.

Frankly, I commend you for not liking the term. And I thank you. My point is, believe me, "We don't either" - would be a grotesque libel of an understatement.

Simple? Trust me, it is anything but.

I notice your location is listed as Apache County. If you are not "Native American" I would believe that you've been privy, to at least, some fringes of sideband conversation.

I am of Iroquoian ancestry and it is a rather profound concern to us very proud people.

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cthia wrote:I am of Iroquoian ancestry and it is a rather profound concern to us very proud people.

Of the Susquehanna (many, many, many times removed) myself. Makes us sort of cousins. About 23 generations ago, a Scottish (notice the term, not European) ancestor settled in southern Pennsylvania with others. Yes, they cleared land and had hard winters.
But unlike their English cousins in Virgina, they didn't raid and capture the original inhabitants of the area. No; Great-great-(a few more times)-grandfather, and his friends, conned them into indentured servitude (benevolent slavery). Typical settler scenario followed.
The homesick went back to Scotland.
Infighting. Also, the lack of Anglo-Saxon female stock led to friendly encounters and marriages occured.
So on, infinity.
Yes, I know a little about who I'm told was called Matoaka. And like any loyal soldier of English upbringing, Smith embellished (won't say he lied, Mrs. Rolfe already did) the story of his finding refuge that winter every time he told it.
Back to subject: I should be called an European American by the standards of the politically correct society, but I'm not.
Dual standards.
Iris-American, but not Apache-American or Apache (and so on).

cthia wrote:

TN4994 wrote:
I personally hate the term Native American. Lacks originality.

You don't like it? Try attending a pauau. That's a bag of worms we do NOT want to open.

You're right, it's misleading. Either everybody born here is a "native American", or nobody is. Some came here from Europe, some came from Britain, some from Africa (mostly involuntarily) and some from Asia several thousand years earlier. No humans are "native" to the Western hemisphere in that sense.
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Hard work and sacrifice pays off at some indefinite time in the future.
Laziness pays off today.

While looking for something I'd read about, I found:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mll45ihe ... inutes-22/

ShaoLan made some artistic additions to enable people to remember chinese characters easier. Worth at least a glance.

What was being looked for was found at:

http://www.bibleprobe.com/chinese.htm

From one of the side items:

Their evidence was...well, no evidence at all, as they generally refused to even examine the inscriptions, the written record or the testimony of any of these explorers. They had made reference to an event related in the Bible and that was enough to refute that the inscriptions held anything of substance.

"Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up."

Discussing ancient Hebrew inscriptions in the Sinai/Red Sea region.


Chinese characters are interesting: the earliest we know is from about 1200 BC, but there is evidence they were well developed even then. It seems to be easier to learn to read them than to learn any of the Chinese languages. The multiple languages in use there are likely why the characters are still around today.

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Hard work and sacrifice pays off at some indefinite time in the future.
Laziness pays off today.[/quote]

That is why so many people live in poverty, not just without much money

From a discussion about the social effects of smart phones.

Intellectual curiosity goes out the door, replaced by instant gratification.