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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by smr   » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:40 am

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I hope you packed your long-johns...it's supposed to get cold!

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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by TN4994   » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:13 pm

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Michael; I'm sorry but I can find both prohibitions (man & man, adult & child) in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim text (I include the Orthodox faiths in this). The death penalty isn't applied for Adult Homosexuals though. They're just ignored by others and forbidden from the temple.
I'm surprised that you didn't point out Adam's rib being added during the Babylonian Exile, or the incorrect interpretation of Lot in Sodom. The leaders of the Temple of Molack, wanted the two visitors to sleep with the priestesses of the Temple. Then when the women gave birth the newborns would be sacrificed. Then we have Jonah in the center of a pod of porpoises, meat sacrifices, Noah having three sons (Noah's daughter's husband took precedence over her), the Honorific Lucifer (applied to a King of Babylon) becoming a name for the devil, Satan means obstacle/aggressor etc. (Depending on sentence structure.).
But you are right about the writers and translators manipulating the text. Look at how they authorized slavery by cursing Ham, and changing several names to include the invalid sound of 'J'.
"Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it on the end." ~ from the song Tin Soldier.
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:20 pm

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TN4994 wrote:Michael; I'm sorry but I can find both prohibitions (man & man, adult & child) in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim text (I include the Orthodox faiths in this). The death penalty isn't applied for Adult Homosexuals though. They're just ignored by others and forbidden from the temple.
I'm surprised that you didn't point out Adam's rib being added during the Babylonian Exile, or the incorrect interpretation of Lot in Sodom. The leaders of the Temple of Molack, wanted the two visitors to sleep with the priestesses of the Temple. Then when the women gave birth the newborns would be sacrificed. Then we have Jonah in the center of a pod of porpoises, meat sacrifices, Noah having three sons (Noah's daughter's husband took precedence over her), the Honorific Lucifer (applied to a King of Babylon) becoming a name for the devil, Satan means obstacle/aggressor etc. (Depending on sentence structure.).
But you are right about the writers and translators manipulating the text. Look at how they authorized slavery by cursing Ham, and changing several names to include the invalid sound of 'J'.
"Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it on the end." ~ from the song Tin Soldier.

Or the line from the KJV which reads "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" which was used as justification for a whole lot witch burning in the 15, 16 and 17th centuries. The word witch was probably a mistranslation of a Hebrew word referring to a woman who poisoned her husband, which was definitely not the case with the vast majority of "witches" burned.
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by TN4994   » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:28 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
TN4994 wrote:Michael; I'm sorry but I can find both prohibitions (man & man, adult & child) in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim text (I include the Orthodox faiths in this). The death penalty isn't applied for Adult Homosexuals though. They're just ignored by others and forbidden from the temple.
I'm surprised that you didn't point out Adam's rib being added during the Babylonian Exile, or the incorrect interpretation of Lot in Sodom. The leaders of the Temple of Molack, wanted the two visitors to sleep with the priestesses of the Temple. Then when the women gave birth the newborns would be sacrificed. Then we have Jonah in the center of a pod of porpoises, meat sacrifices, Noah having three sons (Noah's daughter's husband took precedence over her), the Honorific Lucifer (applied to a King of Babylon) becoming a name for the devil, Satan means obstacle/aggressor etc. (Depending on sentence structure.).
But you are right about the writers and translators manipulating the text. Look at how they authorized slavery by cursing Ham, and changing several names to include the invalid sound of 'J'.
"Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it on the end." ~ from the song Tin Soldier.

Or the line from the KJV which reads "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" which was used as justification for a whole lot witch burning in the 15, 16 and 17th centuries. The word witch was probably a mistranslation of a Hebrew word referring to a woman who poisoned her husband, which was definitely not the case with the vast majority of "witches" burned.

Isn't the Jargon Translation, "You will not allow a bitch to go unpunished."?
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by smr   » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:33 pm

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Another proof of life: a crater that once contained water. Where their is water...their is usually some type of life!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273264/speedreads-curiosity-rover-finds-that-mars-crater-used-to-be-a-lake
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by TN4994   » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:30 pm

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smr wrote:Another proof of life: a crater that once contained water. Where their is water...their is usually some type of life!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273264/speedreads-curiosity-rover-finds-that-mars-crater-used-to-be-a-lake

I remember my science class and looking at a drop of water with an electronic microscope.
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by Tenshinai   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:51 pm

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smr wrote:Another proof of life: a crater that once contained water. Where their is water...their is usually some type of life!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273264/speedreads-curiosity-rover-finds-that-mars-crater-used-to-be-a-lake


"Where there´s water there´s life", is mostly true, ON EARTH.

Elsewhere it improves the ODDS. But since the odds starts out depressingly low, even greatly improved they are still very very LOW.
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:48 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:
smr wrote:Another proof of life: a crater that once contained water. Where their is water...their is usually some type of life!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/273264/speedreads-curiosity-rover-finds-that-mars-crater-used-to-be-a-lake


"Where there´s water there´s life", is mostly true, ON EARTH.

Elsewhere it improves the ODDS. But since the odds starts out depressingly low, even greatly improved they are still very very LOW.

We don't know that they are depressingly low. All we can say is that so far we haven't found life on other planets in this solar system. We don't know how common it is elsewhere - there is virtually no data. The only data we have is that solar systems appear to be common, but many of them do not (at this time) appear to be conducive to life "as we know it".
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by Tenshinai   » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:08 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote:We don't know that they are depressingly low. All we can say is that so far we haven't found life on other planets in this solar system. We don't know how common it is elsewhere - there is virtually no data. The only data we have is that solar systems appear to be common, but many of them do not (at this time) appear to be conducive to life "as we know it".


There has been lots and lots of experiments for many years, all of them pretty darn much with the same results, unless there is some life to start with already, then life doesn´t just appear.

Searching for life in the solar system is still only beginning though as only a rare few probes have been equipped to even try looking.

There are some possibilities however:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28 ... trial_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enceladus# ... ater_ocean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Titan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere ... ty_of_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars
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Re: Rediscovery of Technology
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:57 am

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Tenshinai wrote:
fallsfromtrees wrote:We don't know that they are depressingly low. All we can say is that so far we haven't found life on other planets in this solar system. We don't know how common it is elsewhere - there is virtually no data. The only data we have is that solar systems appear to be common, but many of them do not (at this time) appear to be conducive to life "as we know it".


There has been lots and lots of experiments for many years, all of them pretty darn much with the same results, unless there is some life to start with already, then life doesn´t just appear.

Searching for life in the solar system is still only beginning though as only a rare few probes have been equipped to even try looking.

There are some possibilities however:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28 ... trial_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enceladus# ... ater_ocean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Titan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere ... ty_of_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars

The experiments so far have been in very limited lab environments, with very short time frames, not entire worlds with hundreds of thousands or millions of years. Saying that the VERY limited experiments done so far proves that life doesn't appear spontaneously is egregious.
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