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Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?

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Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by pokermind   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:55 am

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Honor's son has had contact with treecat soothing since inutero, and after birth has been in constant contact with cats. I wonder if all this contact will increase his bandwidth over and above Honor's? While his brain is developing could he develop a functional receiver, and not be <mind blind>?

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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by hanuman   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:27 am

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pokermind wrote:Honor's son has had contact with treecat soothing since inutero, and after birth has been in constant contact with cats. I wonder if all this contact will increase his bandwidth over and above Honor's? While his brain is developing could he develop a functional receiver, and not be <mind blind>?

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If you're talking about an actual PHYSICAL organ, then the answer is a definite and unequivocal NO. Unless direct genetic manipulation is involved, it takes tens of thousands of generations for such drastic evolutionary changes to happen.

If, however, you're talking about an expansion of brain activity, within the limitations of current human anatomy, then I would think that there is a very definite possibility that his TELEMPATHIC ability will exceed that of his mother.
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by pokermind   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:42 am

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There are two theories of evolution, the slow gradual and the fast paced. As Raul will have stimulus, ie something to detect his nervous system while it is building may change the physical brain. He already has from Honor the genes to limited ESP ability, with stimulus during development a much greater ability is possible.

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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by Commodore Oakius   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:09 pm

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pokermind wrote:There are two theories of evolution, the slow gradual and the fast paced. As Raul will have stimulus, ie something to detect his nervous system while it is building may change the physical brain. He already has from Honor the genes to limited ESP ability, with stimulus during development a much greater ability is possible.

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I would agree that he will have heightened ESP and communication with treecats, but not just because of his stimulus during development. There must be many people who were adopted and had children during their adoption. We aren;t told of any special closeness between the offspring and Treecats. In fact we are told that, according to Honor's research, she and Nimitz are a unique item in the galaxy of joined human/'cat bonds.
If it is anything it would be the furthering of Honor's inate telempathic abilities genetically pased to her son. The early developmental contact with Nimitz, while non-existant while it was in the artificial womb, would definatley be an asset to the growth and sharpining of such telempathic/ESP abilities he may have.

I my opinion of course :mrgreen:
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by saber964   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:40 pm

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Raul and Katherine are not the first infants raised by Treecats that title belongs to Faith and James Harrington.
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by hanuman   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:20 pm

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pokermind wrote:There are two theories of evolution, the slow gradual and the fast paced. As Raul will have stimulus, ie something to detect his nervous system while it is building may change the physical brain. He already has from Honor the genes to limited ESP ability, with stimulus during development a much greater ability is possible.

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Pokermind, the more likely theory is one of gradual evolution interspaced by periods of relatively rapid evolution.

The problem with Raul developing an entirely new organ within his brain is that it'd require a complete and random reorganisation of every other organ or organ part inside his skull, and likely also of his brainstem, WITHIN A SINGLE GENERATION.

The statistical probability that he'd develop such an organ under that condition AND survive past the first few days after his birth is so low as to be next to impossible.

That would be a major mutation, and such mutations (especially of the brain) simply have next to no chance of survival. Mutations of that kind (developing a major new organ) do not happen in the course of a single or even just a few generations. We're talking about an organ here, in a vital part of the body - not a minor mutation such as skin colour or the thickness of one's nails.
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by Weird Harold   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:58 pm

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saber964 wrote:Raul and Katherine are not the first infants raised by Treecats that title belongs to Faith and James Harrington.


At least among on-screen, contemporary characters. Mention is made that "Treecats loved children, whether two legged or six legged." (one instance is a dinner with Protector Benjamin and family)

Raul, Faith and James may share Honor's genetic empathic ability and develop a closer connection. Katherine is more likely to share capabilities with all the children of bonded humans since Stephanie and Lionheart bonded.
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by KNick   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:51 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
saber964 wrote:Raul and Katherine are not the first infants raised by Treecats that title belongs to Faith and James Harrington.


At least among on-screen, contemporary characters. Mention is made that "Treecats loved children, whether two legged or six legged." (one instance is a dinner with Protector Benjamin and family)

Raul, Faith and James may share Honor's genetic empathic ability and develop a closer connection. Katherine is more likely to share capabilities with all the children of bonded humans since Stephanie and Lionheart bonded.


I would point out that we have textev of at least three currently living people who have some latent ESP ability. Honor's parents, Allison and Alfred H. and Hamish Alexander. He has enough that he can somewhat feel Honor's attempts to communicate. Granted, that is a small sample, but perhaps it is indicative of a general increase in the ability throughout humanity. Perhaps not yet to the extent of Treecats, but headed in that direction.
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by cwo3neal   » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:30 pm

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Is there any mention of children with both parents having been adopted? it seems to me that if both the father and mother were adoptable that they already have preselected for high ESP/EMPathy ratings that would be like a reinforced resessive gene. or how my kids got blue eyes from two brown eyed parents, that or i can blame the milkman.
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Re: Will Raul have a broader treecat communication spectrum?
Post by crewdude48   » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:01 am

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I do wonder, have the treecats been breading the Herrington Clan to produce a highly sensitive person? Even if they weren't doing it on purpose. It has been stated that the Herrington's have a higher adoption rate than most people on Sphinx. If somebody was adopted before they were married, they would probably only marry people who their 'cat liked. And 'cats probably like people better who have a more ...open, for lack of a better word, mind. So they would be more likely to pass any genetic disposition to having open minds on to their children. How else would Alfred be able to form a treecat style bond with another human?
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