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Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by captainofthelist   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:24 pm

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Every time I read the title Battle Fleet, I cannot help but think it's such a euphemism. After all- BF never fought any battles, aside from policial and bureaucratic infighting within the SL.

Can you think of any other Honorverse Euphemisms?
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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by Dafmeister   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:43 pm

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captainofthelist wrote:Every time I read the title Battle Fleet, I cannot help but think it's such a euphemism. After all- BF never fought any battles, aside from policial and bureaucratic infighting within the SL.

Can you think of any other Honorverse Euphemisms?


It could be argued that the fact that Battle Fleet hasn't fought a battle in centuries makes it the most successful fleet in history. After all, no-one dared to have a go in three hundred years...
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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:53 pm

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Battle Fleet was originally formed to fight battles.
IfIRC, it was a fan who first suggested that name!
So 'no' not a euphemism.

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captainofthelist wrote:Every time I read the title Battle Fleet, I cannot help but think it's such a euphemism. After all- BF never fought any battles, aside from policial and bureaucratic infighting within the SL.

Can you think of any other Honorverse Euphemisms?
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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:58 pm

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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:11 pm

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Honor is going to kill me for this one, I should study the Ellington Protocol.
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An aside:
In the case of Cerberus and Moon launched missiles, could they be considered flak?

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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by crewdude48   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:22 pm

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cthia wrote:Sex slave


Euphemism; an innocuous word used in place of one found offensive. How is sex slave not offensive? If there was a euphemism, it would be involuntary companion or something like that. A euphemism for Battle Fleet would be Defence Force.

In fact, Beowulf Self Defense Force is a euphemism due to the fact that they can use those SDs of theirs for attacking.
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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:36 pm

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crewdude48 wrote:
cthia wrote:Sex slave


Euphemism; an innocuous word used in place of one found offensive. How is sex slave not offensive? If there was a euphemism, it would be involuntary companion or something like that. A euphemism for Battle Fleet would be Defence Force.

In fact, Beowulf Self Defense Force is a euphemism due to the fact that they can use those SDs of theirs for attacking.


I think it can be a rather subjective thing...euphemisms.

Because prostitute (slu#, ho, trollop) is much worse. IMHO

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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by kzt   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:41 pm

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Huh?

A does not equal B.
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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:45 pm

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kzt wrote:Huh?

A does not equal B.

Well carry the 1 next time.

In fact, I think it is one of the most glaring euphemisms in the Honorverse.

And because of his young readers I always thought RFC used it because of that. For me, it's more subtle.

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Re: Honorverse Euphemisms
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:52 pm

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In fact, I had this discussion in class once.
Professor asked the class what we felt about the term politically correct.

I responded by saying it's the same as euphemizing something.

I got 10 points! And believe me, in her class...every point helped! :lol:

I'm only laughing now, cause I wasn't laughing then.
That woman was a beeotch (can i call this a euphemism?)

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