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by Brigade XO » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:23 pm | |
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The Alignment certainly doesn't particularly worry about "collateral damage" or even that they will kill perhaps too many of the current "best" of the normal humans. They are intent on changing the population to their own designs (plural intentional) and for the most part Normals may be useful in raising the products of the Uplift Program in the same way that genetic slaves have been used to raise new decanters of the artificial wombs.
That Beowulf is made aware of the victory over and suplanting of the Beowulf Code is a fairly short term thing even in a universe that has prolong. Yes, the Alignment wants to grind that victory into the face of Beowulf but then it just has to move on with the prospect of only having that victory as a minor historical footnote. After all, the same people who will be most hurt or shocked by that win for the Alignment will soon be dead- they will have mostly become irreltevent to the Alignment and could only be seen as a continuing impediment to implimentaion of The Plan. So they get to die off if not soon killed. Not even as breeding stock since it is also possible that the Alignment will just take genetic samples for use in experimental breeding IF the subjects show attributes the Alignment finds interesting. Remember, using artificial wombs eliminates the need for either parent to be involved in the production of the new subject and the Alignment Breeding Program people will be messing with the DNA of the subjects in any case. The Alignment doesn't have to blast away or send plague or a number of other things to change the population of a planet. They are still going to need "workers" even if those "people" (they are probably going to find a new word for the "worker" classes) and tweeked Normals will do just fine. Or you just asign the survivors of the rise of the RF to things that need being done within existing skill sets of the survivors. They will be changing history, one page at a time over centuries so they aren't going to bother destroying whole planitary populations since those people can be still useful but kept out of any actual power or ability to damage The Plan. |
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by kzt » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:03 pm | |
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There was an internal conversation by the guy running the MA which included a comment about how little they care about the edict....
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by Roguevictory » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:40 pm | |
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Wide-scale germ and genetic warfare is pretty much the absolute last thing they want happening. It was the germ and genetic warfare of Earth's Final War which originally led to the restrictions they wish to overturn after all. |
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by shadowhawk » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:07 pm | |
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The textev below showed MAlign had no problems ordering edict violation when they believed they had sufficient cat's paws
from Torch of Freedom
Now granted things had changed since then, but the point was that they Were perfectly willing to carry out an edict violation in the past. As such one can argue that they would be willing to carry one out now, providing that is no Evidence linking to them |
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by kzt » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:02 pm | |
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Oops, it's David saying that the MA doesn't care.
MoH "The people who'd planned Oyster Bay had carefully arranged their attack to avoid anything that could be construed as a direct attack on the planetary populations of Manticore or Sphinx. Given the nature of the war they were planning to fight, it wasn't because the MAN had any particular objection to killing as many Manticorans as possible. But there was that bothersome little matter of the Eridani Edict, and while it was probably going to take a while for anyone to figure out who'd carried out the attack, and how, that anonymity wasn't going to last forever. Eventually, the fact that the MAN and its allies were the only people who'd had the technical capability to do it was going to become obvious. There were plans in place to prevent the Manticorans from returning the compliment once they figured out who was to blame, but the Mesan Alignment's diplomatic strategies could be very seriously damaged if anyone figured out too soon how little the Eridani Edict truly meant to it." |
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by cthia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:13 pm | |
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The inherent consistency of the ideology of master races and god complexes. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by drothgery » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:37 pm | |
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They don't care about the specific legal matter of the EE in the League constitution. They don't want planet-killing attacks happening left and right because, well, that could hit them too. |
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by kzt » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:59 pm | |
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No, it's that they don't want a little genocide traced back to them getting tin the way of their diplomatic efforts to conquer the galaxy. If it can't be traced to them...
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by shadowhawk » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:00 pm | |
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yet they ordered a edict violation to be carried out against torch with specified aim of rendering inhabitable. That Rozsak stoped the ex-StateSec fleet that was supposed to carry it out, does not change the fact that they ordered it. |
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by drothgery » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:09 pm | |
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One incident set up to be extremely deniable is one thing. They do not want EE violations to become a regular method of waging war. |
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