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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:14 pm

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hanuman wrote:
Amaroq wrote:Anyone else wonder what the Dresden accent sounds like? I don't know if I've ever heard of an accent described as "saw-edged" before. Maybe it's like a Cockney accent?



I always thought of the more guttural dialects and languages, where a lot of the vowels are swallowed and some of the back consonants move right down into the throat.


German can sound very harsh, especially if you've never heard it before. That makes possible sense as the Dresden accent. When I mentioned Cockney I didn't quite mean that I thought the Dresden accent sounded exactly like it. I meant more that it seemed like what the Cockney was, a strong regional dialect that generally sounds unpleasant to most people.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:05 am

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I want to know middle names!

Out of all the characters I adore, we know precisely two of their middle names: Tom Theisman's (Edward), and Michelle Henke's (Gloria __ Samantha Evelyn, and isn't that a mouthful!)

I want Eloise's! I want Estelle's! I want Abigail's and Khumalo's and Allen's and Oversteegen's and Sonja's and Shannon's and Javier's *sob* and Lester's!

I need to know these things!!

(I have my own theories, of course, but unlike my Cupiding, I am well aware that these theories are almost certainly wrong. :lol: )
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by MaxxQ   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:17 am

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roseandheather wrote:I want to know middle names!

Out of all the characters I adore, we know precisely two of their middle names: Tom Theisman's (Edward), and Michelle Henke's (Gloria __ Samantha Evelyn, and isn't that a mouthful!)


All three of my boys, and both my stepdaughters, have three middle names. Lots of fun when doing the parental irritated-so-using-all-the-kids'-names-to-get-their-attention shtick.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:18 am

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roseandheather wrote:I want to know middle names!

Out of all the characters I adore, we know precisely two of their middle names: Tom Theisman's (Edward), and Michelle Henke's (Gloria __ Samantha Evelyn, and isn't that a mouthful!)

I want Eloise's! I want Estelle's! I want Abigail's and Khumalo's and Allen's and Oversteegen's and Sonja's and Shannon's and Javier's *sob* and Lester's!

I need to know these things!!

(I have my own theories, of course, but unlike my Cupiding, I am well aware that these theories are almost certainly wrong. :lol: )


Abigail most likely has a good bunch of middle names seeing as she's a Steadholder's daughter.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:22 am

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Amaroq wrote:
roseandheather wrote:I want to know middle names!

Out of all the characters I adore, we know precisely two of their middle names: Tom Theisman's (Edward), and Michelle Henke's (Gloria __ Samantha Evelyn, and isn't that a mouthful!)

I want Eloise's! I want Estelle's! I want Abigail's and Khumalo's and Allen's and Oversteegen's and Sonja's and Shannon's and Javier's *sob* and Lester's!

I need to know these things!!

(I have my own theories, of course, but unlike my Cupiding, I am well aware that these theories are almost certainly wrong. :lol: )


Abigail most likely has a good bunch of middle names seeing as she's a Steadholder's daughter.


My money's on 'Sarah' as a classical Old Testament name and/or 'Katherine' for the Protector's senior wife, but you're right, she probably has quite a collection. (I also wouldn't be surprised if 'Esther' is in there somewhere, particularly if Abigail winds up marrying a non-Grayson, but that may just be personal bias on my part.)

What that collection is, I'm rather impatient to find out...
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:35 am

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MaxxQ wrote:
roseandheather wrote:I want to know middle names!

Out of all the characters I adore, we know precisely two of their middle names: Tom Theisman's (Edward), and Michelle Henke's (Gloria __ Samantha Evelyn, and isn't that a mouthful!)


All three of my boys, and both my stepdaughters, have three middle names. Lots of fun when doing the parental irritated-so-using-all-the-kids'-names-to-get-their-attention shtick.


Ahahaa, don't tempt me!! I'm at that point in life when I'm starting to consider the prospect of children - and their names - more seriously, and if I wind up marrying my current boyfriend, they'll have enough of a last name to deal with even without an extra middle name or two! But Lord, the possibilities for full-name ultimatums...

Interestingly, many of the names on my "favorite names list" also turn up as the names of prominent characters in the Honorverse books, but I admit nothing... *innocent whistle* :mrgreen:
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by MaxxQ   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:43 am

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roseandheather wrote:
MaxxQ wrote:All three of my boys, and both my stepdaughters, have three middle names. Lots of fun when doing the parental irritated-so-using-all-the-kids'-names-to-get-their-attention shtick.


Ahahaa, don't tempt me!! I'm at that point in life when I'm starting to consider the prospect of children - and their names - more seriously, and if I wind up marrying my current boyfriend, they'll have enough of a last name to deal with even without an extra middle name or two! But Lord, the possibilities for full-name ultimatums...

Interestingly, many of the names on my "favorite names list" also turn up as the names of prominent characters in the Honorverse books, but I admit nothing... *innocent whistle* :mrgreen:


The fun bit was at the hospital when filling out the forms for their birth certificates. For my oldest boy, they were like, "Are you *sure* you want that many names?"

Middle son, they just kinda looked at us oddly, then got on with it.

By the time our third was born (they're 16, 15, and 14, so basically this went on three years in a row, and the same doctor delivered all three), they just said, "Okay. What three middle names *this* year?"
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by crewdude48   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:13 am

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MaxxQ wrote:
roseandheather wrote:
Ahahaa, don't tempt me!! I'm at that point in life when I'm starting to consider the prospect of children - and their names - more seriously, and if I wind up marrying my current boyfriend, they'll have enough of a last name to deal with even without an extra middle name or two! But Lord, the possibilities for full-name ultimatums...

Interestingly, many of the names on my "favorite names list" also turn up as the names of prominent characters in the Honorverse books, but I admit nothing... *innocent whistle* :mrgreen:


The fun bit was at the hospital when filling out the forms for their birth certificates. For my oldest boy, they were like, "Are you *sure* you want that many names?"

Middle son, they just kinda looked at us oddly, then got on with it.

By the time our third was born (they're 16, 15, and 14, so basically this went on three years in a row, and the same doctor delivered all three), they just said, "Okay. What three middle names *this* year?"


If it makes you feel any better, my son has (and our future children will have) two first names. It is an artifact from my wife's picific islander culture. Two firsts, the middle is the maternal heratige, and the last is the fathers last. We usually just call him by his first first name, but when he is approaching the line, we can fire off both firsts in a warning tone before we have to resort to all four names.

It makes it really hard filling out paperwork for him. The worst part is that his second first name has the same first letter as his middle name. " No, we only wanted to you to put down his first name and his middle initial, not write out his middle name." I have even had someone try to tell me I am wrong about his name, and that it is impossible to have two first names.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by MaxxQ   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:29 am

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crewdude48 wrote:If it makes you feel any better, my son has (and our future children will have) two first names. It is an artifact from my wife's picific islander culture. Two firsts, the middle is the maternal heratige, and the last is the fathers last. We usually just call him by his first first name, but when he is approaching the line, we can fire off both firsts in a warning tone before we have to resort to all four names.

It makes it really hard filling out paperwork for him. The worst part is that his second first name has the same first letter as his middle name. " No, we only wanted to you to put down his first name and his middle initial, not write out his middle name." I have even had someone try to tell me I am wrong about his name, and that it is impossible to have two first names.


You should see the boys' SS cards. Their middle names get cut off. Surprisingly, the SS office didn't give us any hassle about it. It's really bad for my oldest, as he has the longest first name - Chistopher. The other two have it a bit easier... Ian and Logan, and one of Ian's middle names is *also* only three letters.

Oh, something I forgot to mention - all their third middle names are the same - my wife's maiden name, but our/their names are *not* hyphenated.

Yeah... I can see where filling out paperwork for your son would be a hassle. I've had similar experiences due to the apostrophe in my last name - especially in the early days of computers where the software wasn't set up to recognize them in names.

And let's not even talk about the many ways people can mis-hear or mis-spell O'Donnell. I even get mail with the "O" as my middle initial. :roll: I once was put on a waiting list at a restaurant due to a busy night, and after three attempts (with me saying each letter individually), I finally had to take the pen from the hostess and write my name myself. :x

More proof that people hear what they want to hear, and ignore everything after.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:14 am

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hanuman wrote:
Amaroq wrote:
Anyone else wonder what the Dresden accent sounds like? I don't know if I've ever heard of an accent described as "saw-edged" before. Maybe it's like a Cockney accent?



I always thought of the more guttural dialects and languages, where a lot of the vowels are swallowed and some of the back consonants move right down into the throat.

Amaroq wrote:
German can sound very harsh, especially if you've never heard it before. That makes possible sense as the Dresden accent. When I mentioned Cockney I didn't quite mean that I thought the Dresden accent sounded exactly like it. I meant more that it seemed like what the Cockney was, a strong regional dialect that generally sounds unpleasant to most people.

German is the obvious language to me. But Tierney brought up the fact that the Andermani speak German, thus the Dresden accent would be familiar. Not necessarily, I think because of the varying dialects of German. I had a German gf from Lyonberg, near Suttgart. They spoke such a different dialect of German, called Swabian. Their motto is, everything except High German. High German is what they teach at Universities. It is represented by Arnold Schwarzenegger, near Austria. The two sometimes don't understand each other. I am willing to bet that the Andermani speak High German, and the Dresdens speak Swabian. Or vice versa. Now consider a German dialect with a Texan, Montanan, Arkansas influence. :o

Mark Twain's take on German:
http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html

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